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BBF Moderator
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07-23-2007, 03:38 PM
I wonder if VZW will drop you as a customer when you sue them?
Can they do that? Will you go back to Cingular then?
How does that work?
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07-23-2007, 03:57 PM
This is whats wrong with the American legal system and why I hate most lawyers. I mean honestly if you hate your carrier then move to another one, although this makes the idea of a "black list" look good if I were in their shoes.
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." - unknown
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-23-2007, 04:05 PM
Well I hope they don't kick me, that wouldn't be nice 
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-23-2007, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BFEINZIMER
Well I hope they don't kick me, that wouldn't be nice 
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Well, if you were a Sprint customer..... 
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BBF Moderator
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07-23-2007, 04:11 PM
Well, I just remember reading that article about Sprint.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...customers.html
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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07-23-2007, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JSanders
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Blah, nothing but anti Sprint FUD...
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07-23-2007, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ArgonNJ
Blah, nothing but anti Sprint FUD...
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and youve sure spread the love about Verizon
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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07-23-2007, 06:10 PM
All that ad states is that the 8830 has "built in GPS......capabilities," which it does, in fact, have.
My 8800 has the CAPABILITY to generate $1MM in additional sales revenues this year. Doesn't mean it will.
What's your case? There's nothing a jury of your peers would find patently misleading or false advertising in that statement. Hell, a jury of your peers likely won't even know what "GPS" stands for in the first place!
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-23-2007, 08:01 PM
this whole situation reminds me of the Motorola 710 for Verizon a while back. It was one of the first Motorola Bluetooth flip phones that Verizon brought out. This phone was the start of Verizon crippling their phones a significant amount. Sure enough, there was a class action and people were given the option to get a refund, cancel without an ETF or have like a month of service free.
The only thing that the people had against Verizon was the fact that there was ONE ad that said the phone had bluetooth. In the end, the class action suit fought the angle that the ad was misleading. This is the exact same thing. If enough people get together, there will be a class action, and they will likely go back to the Moto case and the people will likely win again.
Last edited by IanHummel : 07-23-2007 at 08:03 PM.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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Hey Prez of VZ, Can you hear me now? -
07-23-2007, 08:21 PM
Actually a very small group of people have been complaining on this and other forums. However, if you read what has been said some companies have dumped VZ due to this issue. It would be interesting to know just how many corporate accounts have been lost due to the misunderstanding caused by the ad at the beginning of this thread.
Hey Prez of VZ, can you hear me now? This is the third time I am asking you to respond. Hello, hello, any body there? Anybody home?
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07-23-2007, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM
Actually a very small group of people have been complaining on this and other forums. However, if you read what has been said some companies have dumped VZ due to this issue. It would be interesting to know just how many corporate accounts have been lost due to the misunderstanding caused by the ad at the beginning of this thread.
Hey Prez of VZ, can you hear me now? This is the third time I am asking you to respond. Hello, hello, any body there? Anybody home?
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what makes you think he is here waiting on you to ask him a question?
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07-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Well, FWIW, it's issues like these that stop me from even considering Verizon Wireless as a carrier. No way.
I mean, even with all of the crippled functionality, the equivalent plan at VZW is still 50% more expensive than my current T-Mobile plan.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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I asked for the Prez of VZ and Dawg Answered? -
07-23-2007, 08:37 PM
It is interesting that a small group of VZ 8830 users have been complaining about the sGPS issue. It is also interesting that another even smaller group of people have been defending VZ by proxy. Rather curious.
One of the mods here said that the Prez of VZ looks at this forum, I am curious if that is true. So far I have not seen any evidence of it. On the other hand Dawg answered when I sent out my request. I wonder if there is a connection? Even more curious.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-23-2007, 09:06 PM
most defenders replied by proxy?
wow i dont care..this is my public opinion someones hiding 
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BBF Moderator
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07-23-2007, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM
One of the mods here said that the Prez of VZ looks at this forum, I am curious if that is true. So far I have not seen any evidence of it. On the other hand Dawg answered when I sent out my request. I wonder if there is a connection? Even more curious.
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My comment about the Pres of Verizon checking these forums to see where he stands, was made with sarcasm. I guess my tone of voice didn't quite come through.
Dawg--IS there a connection?
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07-23-2007, 09:28 PM
Dawg is the president of Verizon? Who knew?
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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What have I Caught? -
07-23-2007, 10:08 PM
It is amazing what you can catch if you use the right type of bait!
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07-24-2007, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM
It is amazing what you can catch if you use the right type of bait!
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oh yeah i am the prez of VZ sure thing thats why I use an old 7130e that looks like its been through a rock tumbler drive a 1998 silverado with rust spots. Sure thing 
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07-24-2007, 01:17 PM
Hmm. President Dawg... P Dawg. Has a nice ring to it, no?
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07-24-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by theBorg
Hmm. President Dawg... P Dawg. Has a nice ring to it, no?
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lmao your funny borg
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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Best Entertainment Value for the Dollar -
07-24-2007, 08:18 PM
I must say that these VZ GPS threads are the best entertainment since I saw the Harry Potter movie last Friday night. Better than the reality shows on the TV! I bet Don Rickles would laugh at some of the entries. It is amazing how worked up people can get over plastic, metal, some electronics and bizzare business practices.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-25-2007, 12:51 AM
I don't know if its the best to do but I'm expecting the laywer that handled out v710 case to call me tomorrow, his secratary seemd to take some intrest in our situation. He also uses a BB ;)
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-25-2007, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM
I must say that these VZ GPS threads are the best entertainment since I saw the Harry Potter movie last Friday night. Better than the reality shows on the TV! I bet Don Rickles would laugh at some of the entries. It is amazing how worked up people can get over plastic, metal, some electronics and bizzare business practices.
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Oh yes so wokred up I paid for a $500+ phone that does not do everything its advertised to do...
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07-25-2007, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BFEINZIMER
Oh yes so wokred up I paid for a $500+ phone that does not do everything its advertised to do...
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Enough already, Brian. Just let it go.
It's clear to everyone (except for maybe you and JRSSCivic98) that Verizon did not advertise the GPS as being enabled and usable in the 8830.
Have you even looked at the responses you've gotten in the other three forums that you posted this "proof" in?
PinStack replies, HowardForum replies, and CrackBerry replies all say the same thing. It's not a litigous issue. Your posted advertisement is proof of nothing.
There's simply no point in prolonging this thread or any of the other 8830 GPS threads which say the exact same thing over and over again.
It's done.
I do hope a moderator decides to lock this thread. Nothing new or useful could possibly be added to this discussion.
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07-25-2007, 07:04 AM
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