This device looks awesome.

Basically a Bold/Curve with more space between the keys.

BlackBerry Javelin Caught on Video!! | CrackBerry.com

Been posted about. It's basically the Bold without 3G.

Why rim why??? That should of been the bold!!!! That is 10x better then the bold, the keyboard alone looks like the best keyboard of them all. Yet they didn't include 3g.

I want that device with 3g!

It's discussed here, too:

Javelin in the wild! | BlackBerryNews.com

I saw a pic of a reporter with a Javelin through the knee!!!!


OOHH wrong Javelin

Want!

well if this thing is coming out in 2009 hopefully TMO will get this since my contract will be up. I will either jump ship to AT&T or keep TMO if either gets it. It's pretty much a curve 2.0

Agreed. Much better looking then the Bold. What I don't understand is why RIM would make any more devices without 3G. Its a bit of a negative considering the current nature of the smartphone market.

Yeah, the only justification that I can come up with is that by the time this is released ('09) it will be dirt cheap and let RIM sell BB's at a very low price point.

Could this be the CDMA varient of the bold?

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This is definitely my next BB, perfect successor of my Curve, I don't need 3G if i have wifi.

Problem is, by the time this device is release, it will probably be one of the only smartphones made that doesn't offer 3G. That spells a turkey in my book. This is something Palm would pull.

It's just different enough from the Bold to be a completely different animal. The keyboard is way different. Separated keys as compared to the 8800-style keyboard of the Bold. I was hoping it would be released through T-Mobile (no real 3G) along side the AT&T Bold release. But apparently it's mid-2009. And that sucks. Hard. Cool device though.

something tells me this device will be ready long before next summer.

This, to me, is looking way better than the bold!

I really want this phone I hope it comes out sooner than next year

why 2009? WHY!

is it me or its the bold with a curve keyboard? i like it if its smaller then the bold and curve size.

I just don't understand why RIM would release a new unit without 3g if it is for the GSM market. I understand that T-Mo doesn't officially have a 3G footprint yet, but it just doesn't make sense. I bought an 8300, then an 8320, which I still love. I will definitely replace it with a Bold, or a 3G variant of the Javelin, but there is no way I will spend good money on a Curve in a new form factor. I'm no marketing expert, but I can't imagine that I am the only one that will think this way when this thing comes out. The carriers will make plenty of sales of these units if they replace the Curve with it, but I can't imagine that they will get much in the way of upgrade sales to current Curve users.

I guess there is a certain logic to releasing a non-3G Blackberry, especially for those carriers that don't have 3G. If it's significantly cheaper than the Bold then it fills a niche. The different keyboard may also be a draw for those that never liked the 8800-style keyboard. Even though I'm on T-Lame-o, I'll probably go for the Bold, unlocked, just to keep my options open as far as jumping to AT&T. In the end, the Javelin's success will hinge on price, IMHO.

Me like it

The Javelin looks like the only new phone I'd leave my Pearl for...just maybe. Lets hope for a CDMA version before 2016?

id get it. definitely a clean device

Which ones?? Even T Mobile is beginning to roll out 3G. Who will want this device when they can get something with 3G. And some will say, you really don't need 3G for a lot of BB activities, but the fact is people will want 3G just based on the fact that it is faster and perceived to be better, whether they need it or not. Its a shame such a great looking device will probably be a flop [the GSM model anyway because the eventual CDMA model will probably have EVDO] due to short sightedness on RIMs part.

who cares the device will still sell,

those that need 3g will get 3g devices, those that don't, wont, its like why buy a suv or a truck where it can haul 10,000 lbs when all you need is to commute to / from work?

T-Mobile has barely started rolling out 3G. One market, and no timeline for future rollouts. That's not having 3G, not now anyway. It will be at least a year before they have a decent AWS footprint and hard subscriber numbers to show the manufacturers. So no, T-Mobile doesn't have 3G. They will have it, but right now they don't.

You don't know marketing my friend. There will be perceived need for 3G whether they need it or not. Just look how many people are driving those big trucks who don't really need them.
And yes it will still sell, but not nearly as well as if it had 3G. Just look at the buzz over the Bold.

it does look really nice. but i wonder who manages to get their hands on these. how does just some random person get it?

When a carrier releases it.

tmobile isn't going to get this until next summer, just my assumption =/

Will the Javelin be comming to Verizon?

I think it will out a bit sooner then that.

Man, reading all this info about the Bold and the Javelin. I'm really disappointed in T-mo.

I've been a loyal customer for about 4 years now and up until now I've had no complaints. Maybe if they let us know the hold up on the rollout of their 3G network it wouldn't be so bad, but every time you talk to a rep or CS it's almost an identical response. "We have no information on that at this time, but I hear its soon".

Well soon isn't soon enough. I faithfully upgrade my phone every September right as my contract expires and now it seems like I'll be shopping around to other providers.

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There is no javelin coming to cdma if you remember there was the Niagra device that was for cdma

If ATT is getting the Bold in the next couple of months, why on earth would RIM/TMO be waiting until next summer to release what is basically a 3G-less version of the Bold? If anything, the fact that it's not 3G means there's less conflict between practically concurent rreleases by ATT and TMO - they're different phones and will be marketed differently. I've been holding on to my antiquated 8700 in the hope of skipping over the Curve by this fall, but I don't think I'd wait until next summer.

I agree. Releasing it so far after the Bold would be an awful marketing decision. Who's going to wait months to get a lesser product? They need to release The Bold and Javelin together if they expect to have a reasonable chance of selling Javelins. Either that or price it insanely low, like $99 with a contract. Make it the cheap-o model and look to capitalize on the lower end of the spectrum.

If they aren't coming out until next summer then why would they have a (assumed) working production unit? This baby is coming out long before then.

The Centro has been a really huge seller on every carrier (for some ungodly reason). Think of this as RIM's much better looking, much better spec'd 'Centro".

This phone should be around in October Time hitting right before the Holidays and what not. I see myself with this phone for now until I can get my hands on a Bold.

it looks good.

i hope they put a bigger battery than what we have got in the curves.

i too am in the i dont need 3g boat. id gladly take the extra battery life anyday

how sweet does that screen look... im sold