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Default 09-12-2008, 05:42 PM

umm why?> what happened?
   
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Default 09-12-2008, 05:49 PM

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umm why?> what happened?
Good question. Sounds fishy. I hope for fr0zens sake, because I feel he's legit, this doesn't effect anything.
   
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Default 09-12-2008, 05:50 PM

Probably removed fraudulent bidders.
   
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Default 09-12-2008, 06:22 PM

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Probably removed fraudulent bidders.
Yeah, in a case like this Ebay may actually contact the bidders and see if they're the sellers brother jacking up the price. It's pretty fishy to be over $4k with a week left to bid. Once they get you under their microscope you'd better be careful with "buddy bidding". Really ebay smart folks can probably get away with it but you'd better be smarter than they are or else you're all banned and the item will be taken down.


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Default 09-12-2008, 08:09 PM

A lot of times on Ebay people think it is fun jacking up the price on an item and never pay for it. Some people make accounts just to do this on items they want but can't get or afford.
   
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Default 09-12-2008, 08:33 PM

Everyone get their sponges out!
The drool factor just hit 12 in the Rickter Scale...


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Default 09-12-2008, 09:53 PM

I can't wait to see what it goes for..

Smart move on Frozen's part to ebay it while it is hot

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Default 09-12-2008, 10:31 PM

Looks like one bidder withdrew his bid due to "incorrect amount". The other was apparently cancelled when the bidder could not reach the seller. I still think it's one of those "not for sale, property or RIM" deals. Just a hunch.
   
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Default 09-12-2008, 11:42 PM

They just chose to cancel the bids thats all.....

there is no buddy bidding or any of the other crap you guys are talking, nor did i cancel anyones bids.


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Default 09-12-2008, 11:49 PM

Guys I know Frozen personally...I wouldn't worry about him!


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Default 09-12-2008, 10:52 PM

thanks Brian


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^The invoice is in the mail ;)


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Default 09-13-2008, 06:17 AM

To be honest, with these kind of sales, it's more likely that there are fraudulent bidders rather than buddy bidders or anything like that. Whenever I have listed a new or unreleased handset I have had all kinds of elevated fraudulent or pure vexatious bids by unsuitable bidders trying to derail the process or scammers from Eastern Europe, Indonesia and Nigeria who have been told they can't bid but will bid whatever as they have no intention of paying and so are only interested in forcing a sale to them or a relisting. I'd rather take less cash but more certain payment, than sacrifice payment certainty for a too good to be true offer.

If people are willing to part with that much cash for an unreleased handset that might get decommissioned and has no support or warranty (and I am often someone who gets test handsets), then that's their lookout, provided they know exactly what they're getting into (which they should - the auction's pretty clear). I say good luck to Fr0zen - I hope you get a good price for it!

There is another Javelin on eBay for $700 at the moment, which also looks genuine, but it's not at all clear that this isn't a "property of RIM" handset as there are no pictures of the back or any details. I strongly suspect this handset will get its PIN blocked by RIM.
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 10:42 AM

4,550 with over 4 days left. That is crazy, I can't believe someone would pay that much for a phone.
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 11:16 AM

some people will pay ANYTHING to be exclusive.

just look at the people who are paying 40-50k markups on their GTR.

it's an amazing car and i'd love to own one.. but 40-50k above MSRP? no thanks.

but again, there will always be people who are willing to pay.

plus this ebay auction has made it onto all the big tech blogs.. it's gotten a ridiculous amount of exposure, which only adds to the hype/desire factor.
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 11:35 AM

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To be honest, with these kind of sales, it's more likely that there are fraudulent bidders rather than buddy bidders or anything like that. Whenever I have listed a new or unreleased handset I have had all kinds of elevated fraudulent or pure vexatious bids by unsuitable bidders trying to derail the process or scammers from Eastern Europe, Indonesia and Nigeria who have been told they can't bid but will bid whatever as they have no intention of paying and so are only interested in forcing a sale to them or a relisting. I'd rather take less cash but more certain payment, than sacrifice payment certainty for a too good to be true offer.

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This is what I intended to say. I did not mean to imply fr0zen was shill bidding.
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 11:51 AM

to be honest i dont think the auction is going to end at 4G's, i expect many of the bidders to cancel bids. On top of that i will be in contact with the highest bidders in last 2 days. if i dont hear back i am going to simply cancel the bids.

by the way, does anyone want a video review of this?
any questions? anything you guys would like to see?
what sort of comparisons with the bold and curve?


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Default 09-13-2008, 12:53 PM

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to be honest i dont think the auction is going to end at 4G's, i expect many of the bidders to cancel bids. On top of that i will be in contact with the highest bidders in last 2 days. if i dont hear back i am going to simply cancel the bids.

by the way, does anyone want a video review of this?
any questions? anything you guys would like to see?
what sort of comparisons with the bold and curve?
I believe many people would like to have a review. :D
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 01:25 PM

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...anything you guys would like to see?
what sort of comparisons with the bold and curve?
For me it has to be the camera.

I'd love to see examples of the pics that it takes considering its resolution and auto-focus. Also what's the shutter speed like ?, the delay on my curve is huuuuuuuuge :(

I doubt that the video on it is much better than the Bold's though ?.
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 01:33 PM

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to be honest i dont think the auction is going to end at 4G's, i expect many of the bidders to cancel bids. On top of that i will be in contact with the highest bidders in last 2 days. if i dont hear back i am going to simply cancel the bids.

by the way, does anyone want a video review of this?
any questions? anything you guys would like to see?
what sort of comparisons with the bold and curve?
Just curious, how do you cancel a bid? And if they do contact you how do you decide if you'll keep their bid (feedback data or what?)
I'd like your opinion on the keyboard typing ease compared to Curve/Bold, and the screen compared to Bold. And camera of course.


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Default 09-13-2008, 06:14 PM

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to be honest i dont think the auction is going to end at 4G's, i expect many of the bidders to cancel bids. On top of that i will be in contact with the highest bidders in last 2 days. if i dont hear back i am going to simply cancel the bids.

by the way, does anyone want a video review of this?
any questions? anything you guys would like to see?
what sort of comparisons with the bold and curve?
Personally, I would love to see a video review of it. That would be great, thank you.

Also - one thing I am particularly interested in is the camera - I know it is supposed to be A/F and wanted to know (a) how well/quickly the A/F works, and (b) how good the photos are (either compared to the Curve or the Bold). If you could post a few sample shots that would be cool too.

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Default 09-13-2008, 08:25 PM

i would also love a video review!

I can't wait for this to come out. it will most likely be my next phone


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Default 09-13-2008, 09:25 PM

wow the curve look so unsexy compare to those two sexy lady
   
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Default 09-13-2008, 09:36 PM

indeed review please

with LOTS of GOOD quality pictures

I'm curious about the screen, and the RAM... i want to know how much free RAM is free with just the OEM stuff installed... that would be great to know!!
   
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Default 09-14-2008, 03:24 PM

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I would love to see a video walk thru the os and functions and comparison to rthe curve. If it has 4.6.1 os then show us the safe mode feature. I want to see this. And post how pictures taken with the camera look like


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Default 09-14-2008, 05:58 PM

So where's the video? It's already Monday


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So where's the video? It's already Monday
Heh heh...


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Default 09-14-2008, 07:49 PM

*patiently waits*
   
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Default 09-14-2008, 08:30 PM

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to be honest i dont think the auction is going to end at 4G's, i expect many of the bidders to cancel bids. On top of that i will be in contact with the highest bidders in last 2 days. if i dont hear back i am going to simply cancel the bids.

by the way, does anyone want a video review of this?
any questions? anything you guys would like to see?
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Review would be great!

Some topic you could cover that might be overlooked:

- Camera quality with tests of video mode, AF performance, macro mode (if available)
- Intensity of keyboard and notification LEDs
- Video demo of browser showing real use. IE goto the forums here and make a post, browse to new york times in a new window, etc.
- Size and build quality comparisons to Bold, Curve, iPhone and any other mobile you have around the house!
- Speaker volume and clarity (is it stereo? is it equal to the Bold?)
- Battery capacity and life (is it 1150 mAh like the Curve?)
   
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Default 09-15-2008, 01:39 PM

It's crazy that someone would pay even $2g's for a device that's not officially released, thus not supported, could turn into an expensive brick in a week, and won't be worth more than a couple hundred bucks 30 days after it's release.

With that said, I WANT ONE!
   
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Default 09-16-2008, 08:34 PM

sorry about the delay guys, video coming tomorrow for sure!


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Sounds great!
   
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cant wait!!!!!!!!!
   
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Default 09-17-2008, 04:23 AM

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sorry about the delay guys, video coming tomorrow for sure!
Excellent! Any photos from the camera also very much appreciated.
   
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Default 09-17-2008, 11:27 AM

I see the auction is up to over $5200 right now, but the bidder has 0 feedback.


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sorry about the delay guys, video coming tomorrow for sure!
Cant wait!
   
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Default 09-17-2008, 02:19 PM

wonderful price indeed)
   
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Default 09-17-2008, 02:52 PM

you have a $17,000 phone in hand.... sweet.. id sell... i mean who doesnt wanna pay a 16,800 premium lol


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Default 09-17-2008, 04:18 PM

Congratulations, you have more money than you know what to do with.
   
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Default 09-17-2008, 04:19 PM

I am sure that bid is fraudulent.
   
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