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Default 8900 Holster by Speck - Battery Drain - 02-20-2009, 12:41 PM

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Any have the T-Mobile branded holster by Speck? While the holster serves it purpose well, the battery drains 30% overnight while in the holster with the phone turned off. How is it possible for the battery to drain if the phone is powered off?

To confirm this, I left the phone out of the holster last night and the battery did not drain at all overnight with the power off.

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Hello,

Any have the T-Mobile branded holster by Speck? While the holster serves it purpose well, the battery drains 30% overnight while in the holster with the phone turned off. How is it possible for the battery to drain if the phone is powered off?

To confirm this, I left the phone out of the holster last night and the battery did not drain at all overnight with the power off.

Thanks in advance.
A question or 2 for you:
  1. Which way do you put the phone into the holster, screen facing in, or screen facing out?
  2. Do you have your phone set-up for "Holster Mode", where it automatically LOCKS the keys when you put the phone in the holster?
I've always placed my phone in the holster face (screen) inward. With the 8900 Curve, this might result in the keys and/or trackball being pressed in, but I've always had my phone lock its keys when in Holster Mode. Also, I only use that holster in the car, to clip my BlackBerry onto my visor. The rest of the time, I use a leather pouch.

And last, but certainly not least, I always CHARGE my BlackBerry overnight while I'm sleeping! Doesn't anybody believe in CHARGING their phones anymore?


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Default 02-21-2009, 01:48 PM

1) I normally place the phone "facing in" with the holster. The keys are obviously touching due to an imprint.

2) Locking the keys is the most likely the answer. Do I need to manually press the "lock" key each time prior to putting the 8900 into the holster? Or is there truly a "holster mode" setting where the keys lock upon being placed in the holster?

Regarding daily charging, I do not believe people have an issue with charging every night but more an issue with the 8900 not even coming close to the rated talk/stand by times listed in the "features and benefits" section.

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Default 02-21-2009, 02:00 PM

Hmm I too was interested in this case. Weird to have a battery drain issue when the sleep mode has the purpose of extending the battery life
   
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Default 02-21-2009, 03:00 PM

I place my Javelin in the holster facing out, and it locks the screen. I got the Curve holster from TMO so as not to be naked. BestSkins arrived, but have to put the BB dpwn for along time to fully apply. They say 24-48hrs after applying the skins.


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Default 02-21-2009, 04:22 PM

i am using an 8300 leather belt holster and the battery life is less that 8 hours, i am having to fully charge up overnite and during the work day. there must be something wrong...
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i am using an 8300 leather belt holster and the battery life is less that 8 hours, i am having to fully charge up overnite and during the work day. there must be something wrong...
any ideas
Yep, already been talked about in other threads about the leather pouches. The 8900 has had the location of the internal magnetic "Holster Mode" switch moved from where it was on the 8300 series. So the leather pouches for the 8300 do NOT engage "Holster Mode" on the 8900. That's what's wrong.


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Default 02-21-2009, 06:01 PM

I just got my 8900 last week and the battery drains like 50% in a day.. my other friends with 8820 (?) told me he has to charge only once a week for moderate use..

Anything wrong with mine? I left the BT off but no improvement in battery life. Does WIFI cause anything? I am on the official t-mo version 114
   
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Yep, already been talked about in other threads about the leather pouches. The 8900 has had the location of the internal magnetic "Holster Mode" switch moved from where it was on the 8300 series. So the leather pouches for the 8300 do NOT engage "Holster Mode" on the 8900. That's what's wrong.


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thank you very much sir
No problem, glad to help.

Unfortunately, I've also been frustrated by this problem. OEM leather pouches for the 8300 series are plentiful... I can walk into my local Best Buy and pick one up with ease! Sadly, I can't find ANY brick & mortar store in my area that has the OEM leather pouches for the 8900. Looks like I'm going to have to order one online and wait even longer to have one.


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Default 02-21-2009, 08:12 PM

yes, this is a problem, seidio only has the side holster, not the upright swivel
   
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Default 02-21-2009, 11:07 PM

I purchased this one, works great once its broken in..

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I purchased this one, works great once its broken in..

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is that a fixed clip or does it turn ?
   
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Default 02-22-2009, 03:27 AM

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Yep, already been talked about in other threads about the leather pouches. The 8900 has had the location of the internal magnetic "Holster Mode" switch moved from where it was on the 8300 series. So the leather pouches for the 8300 do NOT engage "Holster Mode" on the 8900. That's what's wrong.
How does it lock when I pull it out of the holster? It must work somewhat.


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is that a fixed clip or does it turn ?
Clip turns..
   
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Yeah, I'm going to be ordering that one online this week, since nobody around here wants to sell me one in a brick & mortar store, and I'll have to use it until one of the 3rd party manufacturers makes one that's more to my liking (I prefer the flap to be full width, instead of the narrower strap RIM keeps insisting on using with the cases for the Curves and Pearls. )
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How does it lock when I pull it out of the holster? It must work somewhat.
It's because of the magnets that hold the strap/flap closed. They are larger, and therefore put out a stronger magnetic field, when compared to the Holster Mode magnets. So, when you're sliding your in and out of the holster, as it passes by the larger, more powerful magnet, that can sometimes activate the magnetic switch in the BlackBerry, locking your keys. But once it's all the way down in the holster, there's no magnet to "tell" the BlackBerry to turn off the screen, which is one reason your battery runs down so fast.


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I upgraded to the new OS and the issue with the battery drain in the case has dissapeared. I suggest upgrading the OS to .152
   
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Default 03-09-2009, 08:31 PM

I just got the 8900 last week and noticed right away that minimal use drains the battery on this BB. I had the 8800 prior to this and only charged my battery every 2-3 days. Now it seems I have to charge this one 2 times a day

what is up with that? (not using holster I pretty much always have it out due to email use)
   
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Default 03-09-2009, 10:19 PM

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Yep, already been talked about in other threads about the leather pouches. The 8900 has had the location of the internal magnetic "Holster Mode" switch moved from where it was on the 8300 series. So the leather pouches for the 8300 do NOT engage "Holster Mode" on the 8900. That's what's wrong.
I've read discussions about this, but always found it weird that my old 8300 OEM leather pouch worked perfectly with my 8900 -- magnet was in exactly the right place, and I could watch the display shutting down as soon as the 8900 slipped into the case.

I unfortunately broke the clip on the old 8300 case, and have been using an old 8800 case for the past week or so. Although the magnet on this case does "sleep" the phone, the case is way too big for the 8900, so I've been on the lookout for my next case.

Tonight I was at BestBuy, and saw a bunch of 8300 OEM lambskin vertical pouches on sale. The way they're package on the display card, you can open the flap and try the case to see how well your phone fits. I decided to give it a try...

I tried 9 or 10 of these 8300 cases (all that were on display), and found out something very interesting: most of the cases did NOT put the 8900 to sleep, but 3 out of this batch DID put the 8900 to sleep when it was inserted into them. I picked one that seemed like the best fit (all a bit different), verified that the magnet would "sleep" the 8900 consistently whether I put the phone in facing out or in. (I generally prefer it facing toward me, but it seems that the top strap fits the phone better the other way -- this is still up in the air).

So -- if you see these on sale in a store, try out a few and you may be pleasantly surprised. It's a very nice fit (not loose or sloppy), gets nicer with age, and is a very sturdy pleasant case for the device. Although you can get these for about $15 on Amazon, you won't be able to try half a dozen to find one that sleeps the phone properly, so I'm not too distraught paying BestBuy $24 for one (plus tax -- but no shipping since I picked it up).


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Default 03-10-2009, 01:16 AM

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I just got the 8900 last week and noticed right away that minimal use drains the battery on this BB. I had the 8800 prior to this and only charged my battery every 2-3 days. Now it seems I have to charge this one 2 times a day

what is up with that? (not using holster I pretty much always have it out due to email use)

This is a know issue. Upgrade your OS to the latest build. That will solve the battery issue.
   
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This is a know issue. Upgrade your OS to the latest build. That will solve the battery issue.
I disagree. I went from .114 to .168 and had the worst battery life, ever. Went back to .114

Never had battery issues, with .114, in the first place. Upgrading OS's may work, for some. However, telling everyone to automatically update their OS is not very sound.

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Default 03-26-2009, 04:16 PM

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Yep, already been talked about in other threads about the leather pouches. The 8900 has had the location of the internal magnetic "Holster Mode" switch moved from where it was on the 8300 series. So the leather pouches for the 8300 do NOT engage "Holster Mode" on the 8900. That's what's wrong.
Actually, this has nothing to do with the issue presented by the OP. The Speck holster sold by T-mobile for 8900 DOES have the magnet in the right place, and it DOES put the 8900 to sleep every single time. However, it drains power for some weird reason. As the OP noted, it even drains it when the device is OFF!
   
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Default 03-26-2009, 05:03 PM

...and just to confuse things more: when I first got the 8900, the included 3/4 slip case was far too tight, and I still have my old 8300 OEM vertical case. This worked just fine with the 8900 -- activated sleep mode, battery was great, etc. Unfortunately, I bent down to pick something up from the floor, and my 8900 must have been in just the right spot for the base to bend up from my belt and snap the plastic clip off the back...so I had to get a replacement case.

Looked all around, and didn't like the options I saw just yet for the 8900. Was at BestBuy shortly after that, and saw a dozen 8300 OEM leather vertical cases on the rack, and tried them on my 8900. The fit is actually very nice -- not too lose, not too tight, and none of the buttons get pressed in when the 8900 is in the case. Interesting part is that about half of them managed to trigger the sleep function, while the other half did not! So there's apparently some variability in magnet placement in this case: it's apparently in the right vicinity to always put the 8300 to sleep, but only some will work on the 8900.

For about 5 minutes of experimentation, I was rewarded with an 8300 OEM leather case that fits my 8900 perfectly and triggers the sleep function. Works perfectly with the phone, great fit, and nicely made and finished.


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Default 04-02-2009, 10:56 PM

I bought the Speck holster the other day, I think I know the problem.

I discovered this quit on accident. I store my 8900 screen inward and a couple times when fidgeting with it while it still was in holster the camera flashed. This brought to my attention that the holster comes into contact with the right side button which by default is the camera button. So essentially you could be running your BB in camera mode which might would explain the battery loss.

It seems to be resolved with manually locking the handset or 'lock handset upon holstering' option. Look under Option/Password
   
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Thanks for the info Savage. It could really help a lot to BB users.


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I bought the Speck holster the other day, I think I know the problem.

I discovered this quit on accident. I store my 8900 screen inward and a couple times when fidgeting with it while it still was in holster the camera flashed. This brought to my attention that the holster comes into contact with the right side button which by default is the camera button. So essentially you could be running your BB in camera mode which might would explain the battery loss.

It seems to be resolved with manually locking the handset or 'lock handset upon holstering' option. Look under Option/Password
Interesting. I've always had my right convenience key set to options, though. It's certainly not on the options screen, when I unholster it.

Maybe just having the key depressed, regardless of it's function, is the cause.
   
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