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Default OS: 8900 4.6.1.307/4.6.1.199 (English + East Asian) - 04-02-2009, 10:08 AM

Official Software For BlackBerry® Curve (TM) 8900 smartphone
From carrier Indosat, this will load to any carrier's 8900 model by following the instructions below (Contains English).

Software For BlackBerry® Curve (TM) 8900 smartphone BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.6.1.307 (EastAsia)

Package Version: 4.6.1.307
Consisting of:
  • Applications: 4.6.1.199
  • Software Platform: 4.2.0.102
  • File name: 8900jEastAsia_PBr4.6.1_rel307_PL4.2.0.102_A4.6.1.1 99.exe
  • File size: 121.53MB
Download the OS here:
https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...B53786A2C5FA09

Instructions for installing either version on ANY carrier's 8900:

1. Download the above OS file to the PC then install it to the PC by running (double clicking) the file you downloaded.

2. Go to c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader and delete the file named "vendor.xml."
3. Plug in BB and double click on "Loader.exe." It's located in the same place as the above vendor.xml file.

The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization."
If, for some reason, you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507, simply connect to the PC again and run Loader.exe again and it should load the OS to the device.

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http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...6-1-168-a.html
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 10:26 AM

Wirelessly posted (8900)

Anything new?


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Default 04-02-2009, 10:56 AM

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Wirelessly posted (8900)

Anything new?
You can read up on new features with .199 in the beta discussions. The production release of .199 should be the same as the beta. It's a subtle, but the ability to pop up a task switcher menu simply by holding the menu button down for a couple of seconds is very handy. UMA seems a bit more stable to me with this version than with prior builds. Battery life seems to be very close to that with .184: I'm still at 75% after an average 17 hour day of use.

I find .199 very solid in general -- glad to see it's made production status.


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Default 04-02-2009, 10:58 AM

Hitting the menu key brings up the menu. HItting the menu key again, selects that menu item--just like a trackball click. I haven't decided if I like that feature or not, though.
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 11:21 AM

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Hitting the menu key brings up the menu. HItting the menu key again, selects that menu item--just like a trackball click. I haven't decided if I like that feature or not, though.
Excellent now to install and lose my 3rd party settings...
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 11:24 AM

Ah yes....the joys of OS upgrading.
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 12:06 PM

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but the ability to pop up a task switcher menu simply by holding the menu button down for a couple of seconds is very handy.
AWESOME. I really liked that feature on the storm and will find it super handy on the 8900.


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Default 04-02-2009, 12:17 PM

Hi,

Installed was ok.

The only problem i got after the update is the calender can not restore for some reason. Address book and the rest was fine.

Re-open Desktop manager and try to sync just the calender still the same.
Tried:
- Both way
- One way.

Restore from the previous backup. Still no luck.

No error or what so ever detail in the RIM.log.

hmm.. Running out of idea.

Anyone ??

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Default 04-02-2009, 12:29 PM

Waiho,

ON your BB > options > Advanced > Default Services and confirm that your active calendar is set as the default and is the one you want to sync.
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 12:33 PM

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Waiho,

ON your BB > options > Advanced > Default Services and confirm that your active calendar is set as the default and is the one you want to sync.
You are the man and is my mistake.

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Default UMA + Start of Call + Bluetooth = Trouble? - 04-02-2009, 01:49 PM

I am finding that UMA calls are dying at the start of the call (incoming and outgoing)--or at least I thought they were.

Turning off my bluetooth headset seems to fix the problem (and last time caused a switch to EDGE) and then the call comes through clear again (assuming the caller had the patience to wait).

I do not notice an issue if UMA pops in or out later in the call. This is bizarre as my Motorola H15 seemed to work fine with my old Curve, and still works fine on EDGE.

The problem was there with the factory installed OS but has gotten markedly worse with the installation of .199.

Could be an issue with the headset, but "feels" like some software conflict/power competition between the WiFi and Bluetooth hardware on the 8900, so I am confident it will be resolved eventually.

Have already deleted and repaired my device; makes no difference. Will try to factory reset my headset, research others having the problem (I do see the UMA drop issue though w/o the Bluetooth complication in the Beta thread) and report back.
   
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Default difference - 04-02-2009, 03:07 PM

Is there any real big difference between this update compared to .168 and is this the offical version or isthis beta ?
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 03:13 PM

This is the official version from a carrier. Please read the FIRST post again.

Differences with .168 are mentioned in the .199 thread in the beta section.
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 04:21 PM

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Waiho,

ON your BB > options > Advanced > Default Services and confirm that your active calendar is set as the default and is the one you want to sync.
I'm OT I know but did previous BBs have more than one calendar to synch to? I have one for each email address (2). I only need one but I can see why one might need more than one (elected California officials must make their work calendars available to the public so their power lunches can be monitored for expenses lol). Is this something new here? Thanks
Edit: I read the Beta .199 thread. Nobody mentioned anything new for this over .174. There were the usual battery life and snappiness debates but nothing much was conclusive on that page.


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Default 04-02-2009, 05:50 PM

i got the same problem with the calendar not syncing after install. But i just synced through desktop software afterwards and everything worked.
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 06:07 PM

Newt, that multi calendar deal all appeared about OS 4.5, or may 4.2.2, I don't remember exactly.

But yes, you can have more than one calendar, work, personal, etc. You can easily switch which one you are viewing.
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 08:05 PM

yep this is a known issue see my thread here http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-h15-help.html
the worst part about it is motorola does not provide software updates for thier headsets like other headset manufactures do!

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I am finding that UMA calls are dying at the start of the call (incoming and outgoing)--or at least I thought they were.

Turning off my bluetooth headset seems to fix the problem (and last time caused a switch to EDGE) and then the call comes through clear again (assuming the caller had the patience to wait).

I do not notice an issue if UMA pops in or out later in the call. This is bizarre as my Motorola H15 seemed to work fine with my old Curve, and still works fine on EDGE.

The problem was there with the factory installed OS but has gotten markedly worse with the installation of .199.

Could be an issue with the headset, but "feels" like some software conflict/power competition between the WiFi and Bluetooth hardware on the 8900, so I am confident it will be resolved eventually.

Have already deleted and repaired my device; makes no difference. Will try to factory reset my headset, research others having the problem (I do see the UMA drop issue though w/o the Bluetooth complication in the Beta thread) and report back.


my bb History = 7200, 8700, 7100i, 8320, 9530, back to the 8320, 8900
   
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Default 04-02-2009, 11:37 PM

Like the new software. DL was very fast, took me less time than the last. 5 or 10mins max. I haven't had any problems with it yet and I have been giving it a run for its money too. Runs very quick and as much as I have been down loading and playing with media for the past hour and a half its still at almost full battery power. I don't have anyone to try and call this late to is if the UMA is working better than it has been. I am really hoping that there are some fixes for this though.
   
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Default 04-03-2009, 03:20 AM

Hi,

I'm quite please with the new firmware.

I notice the power of the battery last longer than use to be.

And speacially have chinese fonts and pinyin as well.

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Default 04-03-2009, 09:17 AM

I've been using the beta .199 version:
8900M_PBr4.6.1_rel307_PL4.2.0.102_A4.6.1.199.exe

This new official production release is:
8900jEastAsia_PBr4.6.1_rel307_PL4.2.0.102_A4.6.1.1 99_Indosat.exe

I noticed that the file sizes are a bit different, but since the applications, release and platform numbers all match, I'm assuming the OS is identical, and that they only differ in some degree of regionalization / localization. Assuming this is correct, there should be no reason to load this new production release in place of the beta .199...

Can somebody who *reallly* knows (not speculation please!) verify or dispute this?

thanks!


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I noticed that the file sizes are a bit different
from carrier to carrier you have different file-dimensions.
for example: east-asia includes other languages like multilanguage.


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Default 04-03-2009, 10:23 AM

The base OS is identical. The language cod files vary.

Read this:
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Default 04-03-2009, 07:32 PM

I noticed under appications that I am missing memory cleaner. anyone else?


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Default 04-04-2009, 12:38 PM

I have a small (possibly stupid) question: if I do a general backup of the handheld before updating the OS, can I use it to restore my phone or will it get to the previous OS?
   
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Default 04-04-2009, 12:42 PM

A backup only backs up the data on the device, not the OS. Its separate from any OS that may be installed. You can restore it back to any BB device with any OS installed.
   
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Default 04-04-2009, 12:42 PM

Not stupid at all.
Backup only backs up the data; it will not back up the OS.

The first phase of the update process is a backup; the last is a restore. Just data.
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Default 04-04-2009, 01:19 PM

I read the .199beta thread and I didn't read about anything new with this other than the number. Did I miss something?


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Default 04-04-2009, 01:43 PM

Thank you for answering. ;)
   
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Default 04-04-2009, 04:47 PM

i have T-MO... will this OS work ok with all my apps?

i wouldnt like to install this OS and find out that i can't use one of the messengers or whatever...
   
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Default 04-04-2009, 04:49 PM

Yes, it works fine on TMo. I've been using it for quite some time.
   
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Default 04-04-2009, 09:25 PM

when i try updating, it only recognizes three languages as new updates nothing else?
   
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Default 04-04-2009, 10:04 PM

Any significant updates over .168 ?


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I've been dying for a way to "quick send" a SMS message. Looks like the "two menu click" is what I've been wanting! Upgrading now.
   
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What is this "two menu click" ?
   
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Default 04-05-2009, 05:55 PM

o..this is frustrating! I've downloaded this OS, installed it...ran APP Loader...and nothing. There was not a vendor.xml file in the install...think I got a bad download?


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Default 04-05-2009, 05:58 PM

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

There's always a vendor.xml. Look in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader

If you have file extensions hidden then it will just say "vendor"
   
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after i redownloaded and installed...vendor xml showed up. Also..must be my download didnt complete the first time. the file size was 119 meg. Thanks for the info!


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Default 04-05-2009, 07:48 PM

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I read the .199beta thread and I didn't read about anything new with this other than the number. Did I miss something?
.199 beta is the same as a carrier released .199.. they are both the same build, minus any carrier customizations/languages
   
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Default 04-06-2009, 12:52 PM

Between this release and 168 and 174 (beta) this is the worst in battery life. At least that's how it is for me with the same usage conditions.
   
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Default 04-06-2009, 06:59 PM

Do you have to install desktop manager to upgrade the OS? My dad is on BES and I want to upgrade him. Just wondering whether I have to install Desktop Manager on his computer first.
   
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