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Old 02-07-2008, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ľ Move over, iPhone: touchscreen BlackBerry imminent, clues say | IP Telephony, VoIP, Broadband | ZDNet.com

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Old 02-07-2008, 10:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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RIM has hundred of patents that may or may not be used for anything. any idea they come up with they patent just in case they want to use it
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there is a triangular type keyboard with the two sides slanted to make it more ergonomic as well. it just looks strange lol
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nice find, very cool, I guess we could be headed in that direction.

I just thought RIM would have used somebody's elses patent, it keeps things more interesting.
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And look at when it was filed, Oct 12th 2007. Wasnt that around the time that the rumors started about the 9000?
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Here is the full patent.

United States Patent Application: 0080030479
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search around, perhaps the 9xxx series, but not the 9000, that rumored device already has images posted over at BGR, engaget, here, bbcool, the p place, etc. it has to be just like they say it is
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There is one mistake in that article by Shaw. He states:

"It's also important to note that although most BlackBerry Patent applications are only published 18 months after they are filed, this one has only a four-month gap. these shorter gaps often occur when adaptation of proposed technology the patent describes is imminent."

By law, patents publish 18 months from their earliest priority (filing) date (unless a non-publication request is filed, which did not happen for this application). The touchscreen patent claims priority to a provisional application that was filed on November 21, 2002 (far more than 18 months ago). That means that by law, this new touchscreen patent would publish as soon as the patent office could process it and get it published. Shaw's assumption that this quick publication is somehow BlackBerry's doing and therefore an indication that adaptation of the technology must be imminent is faulty. All this patent tells you is that this touchscreen technology was originally filed in a patent application back in 2002.
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there is a triangular type keyboard with the two sides slanted to make it more ergonomic as well. it just looks strange lol
sith, where did you get pics from??
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One image from the patent shows a flip phone device and another with an angled slider keyboard.

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My concerns after reading the document are that this method of providing a touch screen is not very good. It measures the displacement of liquid crystal. This means that someone with a bigger finger or someone that uses a different surface area will have different displacement than someone using a stylus, or someone with smaller fingers. This definitely canít be as good as the one on the iPhone, which is a dream to use. It will be similar to other current generation windows mobile devices or worse. I also foresee problems with tracking once the lcd has been displaced, so things like dragging will be problematic. Its going to be a Ö should use a stylus primarily device. Why donít they use the same technology that is in the iPhone? The touch screen tech they are using cannot compare.
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...All this patent tells you is that this touchscreen technology was originally filed in a patent application back in 2002.
That makes sense, and the pressure resistance touchscreen (like everything other than the iPhone) is less sensitive and prone to scratching the resistive layer. The glass lcd of the iPhone is the way to go now.
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That makes sense, and the pressure resistance touchscreen (like everything other than the iPhone) is less sensitive and prone to scratching the resistive layer. The glass lcd of the iPhone is the way to go now.
Its somewhat harder to tell without all the drawings but here is says that glass is part of the touchscreen:

[0024] FIG. 3 shows a front view of an integrated touchscreen LCD assembly. The LCD assembly 300 comprises a top glass 302, and a bottom glass 304. A seal 306 encloses the liquid crystal material between the two glass substrates 302, 304. The seal 306 is preferably a glass epoxy seal. A viewing area 310 is the area of an LCD within the seal 306 that is visible through a bezel or cutout in a device in which the LCD is housed.
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Now i think that a touch screen would be cool...I love the trackball, but touch screen is sooooo much easier
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