What's maybe on the 20th? Yet another rumoured bold release date?

Impossible. Haven't we been assured it will release any day now?

I don't know. I don't believe any of the release dates I see now. I'm hoping the August 8th one is true but I doubt it. No one at Rogers seems to know so I think its going to be closer to the end of the month or September =(.

I hope I am wrong but they way things are looking aren't that great...

Please stop talking about the iphone. It's making me gag.

I was told the end of September at a Rogers store today so who knows anymore......brutal...

hey everyone

Just wanted to let you know that i have got info on the release date from Rogers...

The new release date is now August 21st

and i have info on the pricing, $399 on a 3 year contract...

the reason why it has been pushed back is because of RIM, appearance every single time it has been pushed back has been because of RIM not the carriers...

i'm sticking to my NOV 1st date. nothing can go wrong if i dont hope for anything any time soon to begin with. =D

I thought you had "info on the release date from Rogers" in Post #1 of this thread ....

But please, keep throwing out those dates. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

ha ha cory ,you just seem to know everything about the bold ,except when it will be released .sorry dude do not believe you

hey its not my fault RIM keeps pushing it back... the info i get is from Rogers HQ and i get it as he gets it... and i update here all the dates i have given were the release dates until RIM pushed them back as they are saying its not ready

dont worry to much about the ppl who hold little faith. u are trying to provide a service and, for some reason, people love to shoot the messenger. i appreciate u trying to provide information to the best of your ability. =)

You've also said the device is ready and it's not RIM that pushes it back, it's the carriers.

If its pushed back from RIM then why is RIM sending out the bold to bold party launch attendies and to famous ppl. Also it's been released by a HK carrier now. I still think it's due to Rogers.

no there was something wrong with the lasted build and the coding... just like the 4.5 OS, carriers are releasing it before it should be... i bet within a few weeks there is going to be an updated OS for the HK carrier...

I think the 21st of august is the only date i haven't put an "X" for the release date. Now my calendar is full of "x"s.

Just kidding ... keep the info coming

He's telling us what he is told - Remember these are all rumours and speculation. I know I like to know the latest news even if it doesn't pan out.

For some reason I like waiting 1 week 3 times instead of 3 weeks 1 time. It's called the Baby-steps release

LOL

I know, I'm just giving him a hard time. The only thing making me nervous is this device seems to have disaster written all over it. I hope that's not the case. Although the more I read about it, the more I wish the Javelin was 3G too. If I have to wait, that one sounds like it's going to be the superior device.

To now get another bb device that's not 3g. Not for me.

i 2nd that notion. 3g blackberry is the way to go.

i dont think the device is inferior i just think the whole release is.. well.. i was going to say unorganized.. but well.. for some reason that doesnt seem like the correct term.. apple still wins in the marketing dept.. rim hasnt really made anyone REALLY want their devices.. which i'm sure their working on.. But not doing really well =P

Is no one here concerned about the $399!!!! on a three year contract. Makes the iPhone a lot more appealling.

eh, not to me. for 1 this is just hear say. if its not on the rogers site its not official. 2ndly, its official that the bold will be a direct competitor to the iphone. so i'm sure rim has already thought of this. 3rdly, i'll pay the money for the better phone, hands down.

Not disagreeing but RIM is stupid if they think that the masses don't need or want a 3g device but execs do. If anything it's the other way around. An exec is not streaming video or music and surfing. They are sending and receiving emails and they certainly don't need 3g for that. RIM needs to rethink it's marketing for the bold.

Wirelessly posted (8100 X 1.1111111 = BOLD (soon))

They want 3G for receiving a email during a hour long conference call though.

Just look at the iPhone if you think 3G. Their market is mostly for "the masses" and their device will benefit from 3G more than a BB for a business email person (browsing is the iPhone's forte). Nobody really has to end a call to read an email message, they're never THAT urgent.

So you're saying you agree with me? Lol.

Unless 3G radios double the price or the weight, or half the battery life, it makes no sense to release a device now without 3G. RIM already suffers from a perception of capability deficiency among the masses, why would you reinforce that by releasing a device that is actually capability deficient.

I'd say it's the other way around. Companies don't want to pay for 3G browsing or $400 per handset, so they'd go with the Javelin. Consumers who like toys are the ones who will pony-up for the Bold.

Why are you quoting me regarding this? I said that I wouldn't want to buy another bb device that doesn't have 3g.

I quoted you because I agree with you and wanted to reinforce the fact. Maybe I should've actually used the words "I agree", my bad.

I thought so but wasn't sure. Lol.

We tend to conduct hour long conference calls from our landlines in the office ;)

This is of absolutely no value to me as a businessperson.

Wirelessly posted (8100 X 1.1111111 = BOLD (soon))

I'm thinking of outside sales staff.

as a business person myself... yes i would love to be able to get an email while on a call... i use my BB for both personal and business so if i am on a hour long call with family i would love to be able to reply to an email that comes in

Wouldn't this go beyond email during a phone call? I use JiveTalk heavily to keep in touch with my employees, contractors and various associates, and it would be nice to be able to continue chats while on the phone, especially a phone call taking place via Bluetooth.

My job is 99% office remote, and I deal with many clients via email and phone, I have it happen 2-3 -per day- that a client sends an email during a phone call that relates to the phone call (ie. updated quotes, screen captures, pricing calculators, etc.). The data tx while on a call is at the top of my short list for reasons to get a Bold.

Correct me if I'm wrong... if I'm on a call now with my 8320 on EDGE, are data services interrupted? I don't get mail/can't use data while on the phone?

If that's the case, and 3G allows data services to continue uninterrupted, then I take back what I said, and can see the value to business for the Bold over the Javelin.

That given, I see even less reason why RIM would want to release another GSM device without 3G capability. Isn't "always-on" the key to BB over other devices, so "always-on-except-during-calls" would be something they'd want to avoid?

Just to confirm, if I'm on an ssh session, and I get all call, the session will get dropped (assuming the call is long enough)? So Jivetalk, etc also lose connectivity?

What impact does that have on WiFi connections?

if i'm correct - i have an 8820 - i still keep my data connection live (wifi) while i'm on a phone call (EDGE). i can test tonight to make sure but do *think* the dual mode (assuming one is wifi) work this way.

Yes you will loose all data related connection through GPRS/EDGE but if on wifi I think the connection stays on. Now let's get back on topic about when the bold will be released on Rogers.

If I am on a series of calls that are all over 4-5 minutes, I will logout, and then log back into JiveTalk. I have had associates ask why I login/logout so much, when really its me losing Data TX while on calls.

omy... i want the phone now ahhhhhh
lets go to rogers and hijack them and give them out to all the bbf people