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08-05-2008, 10:54 AM
Any unconfirmed Rogers release dates today, I still have August 12, but others told me it can be as late as August 21. Lets hope we get it between these 2 dates.
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08-05-2008, 11:14 AM
my guy says Aug 19th...........14 more days
"you like it the juice, the juice is good, no?"
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08-05-2008, 12:47 PM
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my guy says Aug 19th...........14 more days
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My guy is saying tentative on August 25 (which oddly enough is a Monday) but more than likely not until the end of September as they are still having problems with radio codes and such...
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08-05-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by raynicolini
Any unconfirmed Rogers release dates today, I still have August 12, but others told me it can be as late as August 21. Lets hope we get it between these 2 dates.
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Lets be realistic about release dates. It will not be tomorrow or next week. From a marketing perspective, the Bold will not be released until two or three weeks minimum after Rogers announces the release date. It will not be sprung on us. We will not wake up one morning with the announcement it is available now or will be tomorrow.
Unfortunately, it will not be available until after Rogers has gotten most of the mileage it can out of the iphone and then can start promoting the Bold.
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08-05-2008, 01:31 PM
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Lets be realistic about release dates. It will not be tomorrow or next week. From a marketing perspective, the Bold will not be released until two or three weeks minimum after Rogers announces the release date. It will not be sprung on us. We will not wake up one morning with the announcement it is available now or will be tomorrow.
Unfortunately, it will not be available until after Rogers has gotten most of the mileage it can out of the iphone and then can start promoting the Bold.
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I agree. I think it will be quite some time before we see the Bold.
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08-05-2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jimfraser
Lets be realistic about release dates. It will not be tomorrow or next week. From a marketing perspective, the Bold will not be released until two or three weeks minimum after Rogers announces the release date. It will not be sprung on us. We will not wake up one morning with the announcement it is available now or will be tomorrow.
Unfortunately, it will not be available until after Rogers has gotten most of the mileage it can out of the iphone and then can start promoting the Bold.
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I don't know why people keep trying to make this an iPhone issue. We've read several times now where it's the device that isn't ready yet.
I know it comforts some to think that the carriers are delaying the Bold because of a fear it would eat into iPhone sales, but this just isn't the case. The two devices aren't competing against each other. Most of the folks who buy iPHones aren't interested in other smartphones, they jsut wanted an iPhone because it hooks up to their iTunes.
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08-05-2008, 02:54 PM
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I don't know why people keep trying to make this an iPhone issue. We've read several times now where it's the device that isn't ready yet.
I know it comforts some to think that the carriers are delaying the Bold because of a fear it would eat into iPhone sales, but this just isn't the case. The two devices aren't competing against each other. Most of the folks who buy iPHones aren't interested in other smartphones, they jsut wanted an iPhone because it hooks up to their iTunes.
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well i disagree. it is well known that the iphone and the blackberry are competing against each other. this is coming from rim directly. but i do agree that the sales of the iphone dont have much to do with the release of the bold.
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08-05-2008, 03:38 PM
The Rogers rep assigned to my firm says it's been delayed to early September (at the earliest), and that there are battery problems.
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08-05-2008, 04:13 PM
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well i disagree. it is well known that the iphone and the blackberry are competing against each other. this is coming from rim directly. but i do agree that the sales of the iphone dont have much to do with the release of the bold.
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I also disagree. If we knew that the BOLD wasn't coming out for 3-4 months I would likely buy an iFone b/c of the MS Exchange sync and the larger memory for media. But with the BOLD release within the next few weeks I don't mind waiting at all.
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08-05-2008, 06:00 PM
a coupler rogers locations today, here in ottawa, received there demo handset's..so that being said, we could see them sooner then later
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08-05-2008, 06:46 PM
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a coupler rogers locations today, here in ottawa, received there demo handset's..so that being said, we could see them sooner then later
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Did you actually see them or called them to confirm? Can you take a pic and post it?
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08-05-2008, 07:46 PM
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I also disagree. If we knew that the BOLD wasn't coming out for 3-4 months I would likely buy an iFone b/c of the MS Exchange sync and the larger memory for media. But with the BOLD release within the next few weeks I don't mind waiting at all.
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You don't represent the majority of folks buying an iPhone, who aren't familiar with nor care about other devices. It's not like they were comparison shopping and settled on the iPhone. They want the hot, new toy. Probably had nothing but RAZRs prior to their purchase.
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08-05-2008, 07:48 PM
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You don't represent the majority of folks buying an iPhone, who aren't familiar with nor care about other devices. It's not like they were comparison shopping and settled on the iPhone. They want the hot, new toy. Probably had nothing but RAZRs prior to their purchase.
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Ha, well said. Honestly, though, if I had known it would have taken this long I too would have likely bought the iFone as a stop gap until the Bold was released.
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08-05-2008, 07:52 PM
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Did you actually see them or called them to confirm? Can you take a pic and post it?
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no, he txt me saying
"yeah, got the demo today. So u assume a few days to a week."
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08-05-2008, 08:14 PM
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no, he txt me saying
"yeah, got the demo today. So u assume a few days to a week."
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Can you have have him take a pic and send it to you? Nothing personal but we'll believe it when we see it.
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08-06-2008, 12:34 PM
launch on the 15th of August (from rogers retail guy)
lets cross our fingers...lets see if they change the available dates on the accessories section on blackberry website tomorrow!
"you like it the juice, the juice is good, no?"
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08-06-2008, 12:45 PM
never trust retail...
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08-06-2008, 01:12 PM
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never trust retail...
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Well we can't seem to trust you either so we might as well believe any date that we like to believe.
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08-06-2008, 01:13 PM
oh snap!
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08-06-2008, 01:14 PM
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no, he txt me saying
"yeah, got the demo today. So u assume a few days to a week."
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What's happening to those pics as proof? No other Rogers stores has received their demos that I know of.
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08-06-2008, 01:18 PM
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Well we can't seem to trust you either so we might as well believe any date that we like to believe.
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umm and why not? every single release date that i have just happened to have been the exact same as kevins, and mikey pants, and everyone else who is getting info... wierd eh?
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08-06-2008, 01:21 PM
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umm and why not? every single release date that i have just happened to have been the exact same as kevins, and mikey pants, and everyone else who is getting info... wierd eh?
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And none of them have materlialized. What's the latest flavour of the month?
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08-06-2008, 01:25 PM
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umm and why not? every single release date that i have just happened to have been the exact same as kevins, and mikey pants, and everyone else who is getting info... wierd eh?
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This is what you said about the previous release dates.
"the reason why it has been pushed back is because of RIM, appearance every single time it has been pushed back has been because of RIM not the carriers..."
And yet two carriers have since released the bold. It's always been the carriers and not RIM.
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08-06-2008, 01:38 PM
OK, fine, from here on out I'll keep everything to myself... apparently people don't want to know the info i get from HQ... fine
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08-06-2008, 01:42 PM
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OK, fine, from here on out I'll keep everything to myself... apparently people don't want to know the info i get from HQ... fine
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You didn't post what you've heard. You just said, don't trust retail. That's why I made the initial comment. If you know something then spill.
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08-06-2008, 01:42 PM
Why do people complain? We aren't getting any info from Rogers or RIM, so if we can get a rumour from Cory or anybody else why cant we just accept the fact that it is info that they have heard and it may change?
BTW It's a f'n phone!
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08-06-2008, 01:47 PM
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launch on the 15th of August (from rogers retail guy)
lets cross our fingers...lets see if they change the available dates on the accessories section on blackberry website tomorrow!
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Don't you think Rogers, from a marketing standpoint, will want more than nine days to promote the Bold before it is released?
Or maybe Rogers and Fido will not promote it much, because it would take too much effort to make room for Bold signs and other promotional material in their stores with all the iphone stuff there now.
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Waiting for 3:00pm for more news -
08-06-2008, 01:49 PM
As of today, I have no new date release. I should be getting a call later on today to see if the dates that I have changed.
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08-06-2008, 01:50 PM
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Why do people complain? We aren't getting any info from Rogers or RIM, so if we can get a rumour from Cory or anybody else why cant we just accept the fact that it is info that they have heard and it may change?
BTW It's a f'n phone!
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You're right. Sorry Cory. I'm just getting so frustrated with Rogers not being able to announce a date.
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08-06-2008, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeypants
T-Mobile Deutschland released the Bold today. No fanfare or drawn-out marketing; it just appeared as "New in Shop" on their website.
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Great point
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Tuesday August 12 - 14 -
08-06-2008, 02:50 PM
I just got off the phone with my Rogers HQ contact and he told me it is firm for 19th of August.
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08-06-2008, 04:21 PM
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I just got off the phone with my Rogers HQ contact and he told me it is scheduled for 12-14 of August. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
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God I hope so. The longer I wait, the more I hate Rogers...
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08-06-2008, 04:23 PM
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God I hope so. The longer I wait, the more I hate Rogers...
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What about us poor folks in North America... No one has said anything 
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08-06-2008, 04:27 PM
I am only looking after my needs, sorry
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08-06-2008, 04:47 PM
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What about us poor folks in North America... No one has said anything 
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Rogers is in Canada, which is in North America
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08-06-2008, 04:53 PM
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Rogers is in Canada, which is in North America
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yea but the US often forgets about us tucked away way down there 
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08-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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08-06-2008, 06:41 PM
I stopped posting as I think all of these Rogers agents are liars....
I went to a Mall and the Rogers agent was very rude to me...he said "you will know when we know" without saying anything else...and all I asked was do you know when the BOLD is being released....had a good mine to scream or call Rogers then I said to myself...who is he to me.....ah well....
Anyhow August end is when I think it will be released....there is a place on Rogers website where you can put in your e-mail and once the device is available then they will e-mail you....
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08-06-2008, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ssb16
I stopped posting as I think all of these Rogers agents are liars....
I went to a Mall and the Rogers agent was very rude to me...he said "you will know when we know" without saying anything else...and all I asked was do you know when the BOLD is being released....had a good mine to scream or call Rogers then I said to myself...who is he to me.....ah well....
Anyhow August end is when I think it will be released....there is a place on Rogers website where you can put in your e-mail and once the device is available then they will e-mail you....
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I have a feeling I'll HUP, get my phone mailed to me and use it before that email comes.
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08-08-2008, 01:35 AM
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I read this as well.
Forgetting about "the date" for a moment, if the Rogers version were to be initially launched w/o UMA, could this be solved by updating the OS or downloading applications? I know there is a lot of guessing involved here, but some educated opinions would be quite helpful
Thanks!
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