It's hard to get mentally ready with all these "credible dates" being thrown around. Why can't Rogers just announce 5 days before like any other gadget release.

Ray,

It appears that your credibility is suspect. Numerous times you have come on here and posted false information (perhaps not intentionally) regarding the release dates. All this does is serve to disappoint and frustrate many of RIM's/Roger's loyal customer base through no fault of their own. It actually damages their reputation because it makes them appear unreliable when if fact it is you that is spreading false rumors.

I propose that Ray be banned until the device is release and then immediately reinstated.

Anyone else agree?

nope. assuming he's not credible and/or wrong, i would not support banning/banishment. just one guy's opinion. regards, bt

Banning someone for their personal opinion sounds kinda silly. Isn't the whole point of a forum so people can give their 2 cents? It's your choice if you want to believe it or not.

I think you should be banned for posting non sense. He posts the information he knows just like anyone with insider sources or someone who just talked to a Rogers or RIM rep. Its not his fault if dates get pushed back or information changes. Damn it people s*** happens Ray and Cory aren't Ted Rogers' best friend they aren't always going to have exact dates because things change that they can't control. You becoming so dependent on them is your own fault, take their info with a grain of salt. You people just come on here and bash Ray and cory like it was them personally who pushed back the dates on the Bold when it obviously isn't. Give them a break. Ban yourself if you don't want to read it. Don't you think it frustrates Cory and ray as well they want the device to be released as well. You believe what you want. I'm sure no one else will agree.

I really hope you are kidding. Banning someone for giving out information they thought may be helpful to others is ridiculous. Like Stranger stated, dates get pushed back. Ray as well as Cory were trying to add to the community by stating info they found valuable at the time. Things change, thus is life. It is not like they come here, picked a random date and posted it just to get your hopes up. Give it a rest. It is all rumors and hearsay at this point anyhow.

I think Cory should also be banned until the device is released. He also pollutes the forum with baseless gossip.

Well, maybe you should plead your case with the mods. I really think banning individuals based on your bogus reasons is uncalled for. That's just my opinion.

I think you need to be banned for being stupid enough for beliving every single date being thrown out there as well as for trolling.

Getting personal and hurling insults WILL get you banned. Predictions or assumptions that turn out to be inaccurate WILL NOT, nor should they.

I am sticking with my story! It will be realeased between August 12, 2008 at 14:08 and December 31, 2008 by 23:59

Everyone take a deep breath and laugh a little... please.

You must be the only person in the forum that has someone behind them with a gun to their head telling them to read every post by ray and cory and live and die by what they say.

don't worry Jsanders i have been laughing.

I was told a couple of days ago by my account manager at O2 (UK) that they'll have the Bold on the 8th September 2008, no idea yet what the price will be though...

My iPhone should be here any day.

I will remain a bystander until Tuesday August 19th, if the BOLD arrives then we can all be happy, if it does not arrive then you can all say "I told you so"

7 days to prove that I am wrong.

ok

i hear Sept 12 now....

also the accessories date on bb site are now Sept 10th

over seas the Bold is already released, and they to have to wait until Sept 10 to shop on the blackberry website. so that really does not mean much.

Is this like a football pool? Put me down for Sept 14th.

3rd week of august is coming up here in a couple days....lol....we are about to find out if this sucker is just what he sounds like...another sucker. LOL