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thefonedoc 07-25-2008 07:19 PM

Bold and some US network questions from an Irishman :)
 
With the release of the Bold drawing nearer, I have a few questions for you guys

I am on O2 Ireland and have a BIS subscription with an 8310
The thing is, in Ireland, O2 will allow you purchase a data add-on OR Blackberry add-on for your account. Up until now with GPRS and EDGE enabled Blackberry devices, that hasnt really been an issue.

My concern is regarding the release of the Blackberry Bold. As it's a HSDPA device and O2 have HSDPA (actually HSUPA) in place, I want to get the full benefit from the handset. The thing is, if they maintain their current stance (ie. cannot have data AND Blackberry on one account), am I going to find myself limited?

I have so many questions but dont know where to start

Do the US networks allow blackberry add-on and data add-on?
If for example, I use my Blackberry with an app that does not support the Blackberry apn, I have to pay data charges.

Will the browser run on the Blackberry apn as always and if so, will I be able to use the HSDPA speeds of my network?

At the moment, I think Google Maps runs on the blackberry apn. If it does in the future, and I cannot add HSDPA data to my account, is it, like the browser going to run slower??

y.bb 07-25-2008 07:41 PM

In the U.S., Blackberry devices can only use Blackberry data plans. This means you get FULL unlimited access to the internet with the Blackberry push email service included. There is no choice but to have it all here.

AT&T, the main GSM carrier here (and the only one with HSDPA), will not restrict your access to HSDPA speeds, except, obviously, in areas where HSDPA is not available. In those areas, EDGE will be available to you.

I can't answer any questions about how O2 will handle the situation.

thefonedoc 07-25-2008 07:46 PM

Well that answers a lot of my questions already and thank you for replying

We also can only get Blackberry data plans. This provides full unlimited email and unlimited email, but if an application uses the O2 access point, then data is charged

y.bb 07-25-2008 07:52 PM

Not a problem.

Just to be as clear as possible... any Blackberry data plan you get here will give you absolute unlimited data use (email, BB browser, or apps using APN) on the device. You'll never run up extra charges unless you leave the country or get caught tethering access to your computer. These plans, depending on the carrier, range from $20-$45 per month roughly.

thefonedoc 07-25-2008 08:05 PM

Aha
If I tether and use the O2 apn, I get data charges
Cost of standard plan here is 20 ($12.75) per month, although it seems to be dropped to 14.99($9.50) at the moment

Tethering works out at 1c per kb, which is 10 per mb ($6.35)

thefonedoc 07-25-2008 08:11 PM

Sorry. Misread your post
This is exactly the point I am making
If I tether here, I cannot choose a plan and have to accept the standard cost of xxx8364;10 ($6.35) per mb

y.bb 07-25-2008 09:12 PM

If you want to tether, the carriers currently do offer plans that allow you to do so. You just need to pay extra for it.

thefonedoc 07-25-2008 09:22 PM

Thats my point
Not over here you can't
They just charge you at the stupid high rates I posted above
You cannot subscribe to *BOTH* Blackberry and data tariffs :cry:

Foxglove 07-26-2008 04:19 AM

Wirelessly posted

Hi



O2 uk have the normal BlackBerry bolt on too but they also have a blackberry package for tethering which saves you from per mb charges. O2 Ireland should have something similar. Its not cheap, about 23.50 per month but cheaper than per mb charges. Not sure if you can have both packages at the same time though as I don't tether but I assume that you can.



Also regarding the Bold, if it requires a different data package then o2 will bring one out OR simply allow the currently chargeable APN settings to become part of the package without extra charges maybe. We in the UK , I'm from N Ireland BTW, have the exact same problem with the o2 mobileweb APN settings.

thefonedoc 07-26-2008 12:15 PM

Cheers for the reply. I had heard that O2 UK offered a combined one alright, but O2 Ireland will not "at the moment". However, I think with the release of the Bold, they might offer a new combined Blackberry plus tethering package. I certainly hope so anyway!


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