Just follow the OS upgrade instructions at the top of this thread. Some people have said that DM 4.7 doesn't work for OS 190, so you can use DM 4.6, which does work, or you dig into the Program Files subdirectories, find the RIM loader.exe, and use that to load the OS.

As for the differences between the ATT theme and any of the others, it is a matter of personal preference as to style. The only substantive difference I know of is that the ATT theme blocks the BB Maps icon so that you can't use BB Maps. ATT wants you to use their Navigator service which costs US $10 a month. But I don't see the advantage of BB Maps over Google maps (unless BB maps cover other countries, while Google maps don't, but that wouldn't matter with ATT when you are in the US), both of which are free and neither of which have voice directions like Navigator. An alternative to Navigator is the Garmin program, which has voice directions, and for which you pay a one time fee of $99, or else you can pay $10 a month like the ATT Navigator.

That is the full extent of my knowledge on these subjects, maybe on all subjects, if you ask my wife.

Meanwhile, because it requires so much time to re-register the 3rd party programs and get all the icons back to where they were every time I upgrade the BB OS, I think I'm going to wait for something major before upgrading from 185, unless I read something here that convinces me otherwise.

Wirelessly posted

Regarding the time required to get everything back in place after an OS upgrade - I totally Agree!

What a PIA. I have 4 email addresses that I customize in my profiles, so it's an extra pain in the ass to go through the profiles and re-assign the various tones I have set for the various addresses. Gawd they need to fix this!!!

Wirelessly posted (Bold 9000)

I installed .190 using 4.7 on 2 seperate berries and never had a problem

I'm running DM 4.7 and .190 wouldn't load right, I mean something loaded, but when I viewed the version it said .157 on the BB. So it clearly didn't work right with DM 4.7.

I ended up running the loader.exe just as Tom did and all went well with the install.

....but what a PITA having to re-enter everything for 3rd party apps, just such a PITA! Docs to go is a great app, but it is probably the biggest pain and second in line would be jive talk.

.185 loaded much more smoothly.

The few things I notice about .190, no WiFi connection until I resent the service books and then it takes longer than .167 or .185 to obtain a WiFi connection....that blows, and the scanning of the media card is much slower.

The "application update available" box is also a pain, because there isn't anything to update but it's saying language support is available, but when you click to update there is nothing to update.

I don't know yet, I'll give it the rest of the day to play around with, but I may be reverting back to .185.

I wiped the device and installed the OS again, everything seems to be running great now.

Upgraded from .185 which had unreliable BES connection and extremely poor battery life - .190 is the best so far for me 2nd after .166, BES is behaving, battery life is back to the same I had with .162

Unless I find a big issue or RIM produce an extraordinary new firmware next, this one's a keeper.

I just did the upgrade to .190 OS. I re-registered on the network, resent the service books, did a battery pull, and a soft reboot; and for some reason I cannot receive email, but I can send email from the device.

I also can't get my regular web browser only the MediaNet one. SMS, MMS, and phone calls work just fine. Anybody?

Just got off the phone with AT&T, and they're saying they have an intermittent outage that started yesterday. ETA to fix is 48 hours.

Ok...I am prepared to uninstall DTM 4.7 and load 4.6 again. I have .190 all downloaded and ready to open up to my PC desktop when it's time...and all I'm waiting for is for some feedback on whether it's really beneficial to go from the .185 version I am very happy with now...to the new .190.

I mean, it's kind of a PITA and a long wait to do if there's nothing any better with .190 than .185...ya know?

Can anybody comment?

There's nothing to wait for. Just upgrade so you have the current version of the device software.

I have noticed that there have been delays (up to 15 mins) in getting emails from my gmail account. Changed from 3G to GPRS and then the emails started to come through instantly.

Just updated to .190, and initially the OS felt quicker, smoother...and I liked it.

But...now I notice that my thumbnail pics in my picture folder won't display!! Has anybody else gotten this bug? How can it be repaired? Can it?

If this is not a fixable issue...it's back to .185 for me, and back tonight!!

Both cover some countries outside the US. I've used Google Maps with great success in Hong Kong, Singapore, and Kuala Lumpur.

after upgrading to 190 i noticed push email is not working either. Used to be instant like 3 seconds.

Yeah, my WiFi isn't working either. No push email or WiFi. It's showing I'm connected, but the icon is grayed out. Might have to downgrade.

Curious, what city and state are you in? I just got off the phone with AT&T and they say that towers are down in the San Francisco area.

I do not have that bug. When I explore to my picture folder it comes up as list view but then I just hit the menu button and select View Thumbnails.

The question: is your email coming through?

I get this too. HOWEVER, try scrolling over the thumbnails. When I scroll, it populates all of the thumbnails.

Just downgraded again to .185...and all is well!!

For those of you who do not experience this bug, or any other...consider yourself lucky. For my money, .185 is a much more stable version.

You need to resend the service books. Again, you have to resend the service books!

Read my original post. That has been done several times. I've even downgraded back down to .167 and it's still not working.

Can I delete all of the service books on the device and then try to resend them?

Was kind of frustrating. Push email was extremely slow (well anything is slower than when you are use to the emails coming through immediately). Funny that it was fixed by just changing from 3G to GPRS. Everything is back to normal again, however I am seriously considering downgrading. I'm in Sydney, Australia with the Optus network.

DSS597,

I read your post, but you said no email, no WiFi and no internet browser [only WAP].....this, to me, means the service books did not get sent down correctly OR after you sent the service books you tried to reload an old backup file.

You can delete all the service books from the handheld if you want, but I would just push them down directly from the BIS site and see what happens.

Well I'm dead in the water now. I did a complete wipe of the device with OS .167, resent the service books and they never came. For some reason my Bold just doesn't want to receive data, though everything else seems to work. I think I have a defective Bold. I had tech support on the line, and everything is provisioned properly. Everything was working fine yesterday, it literally changed out of nowhere.

I'm going into AT&T tomorrow to grab another unit.

I don't believe that upgrading to .185 on Friday, and then .190 on Saturday had anything to do with "frying" this Bold, but at least I'm putting this post on the record should it happen to someone else. We have been hearing others saying that their email has stopped as well. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Thanks Magnum.

We have?

wifi works fine

thumbnail preview works fine

190 gave me more memory than 185

Feels my battery hv long live power. Great! V190 very good!

now i'm in two minds as to whether i should change to .185 or .190. help!

Ah what the heck it can't hurt. As long as you follow the instructions you should not have a problem.

I've tried both and .190 is what I would choose - .185 was a complete mess for me

V190 is better than 185. Very suitable 4 me afterall.

well, i'm keeping both on my computer. i'll try .185 first, and then .190, if it doesn't work. thanks guys!

Had a full business day of using .190 and it has worked perfectly fine for me...

I had .185 before, always restart if I turn on the wifi, now I am with .190; this one is much better in; battery long live, faster booting and multitasking.
The only things bugs me is after you composed a new email its always go back to the main message folder, thats the only things that I dont like

All the advice you've read here, and you ignore it?

meh.

Hey guys,

I have just received my 1st ever Blackberry, so sorry if these questions may seem silly but my 'options-->about' screen says I have the following 'v4.6.0.126 (Platform 4.0.0.135)'

Is the first number the OS & the second the firmware?

Also can I upgrade straight to .190 without upgrading to those inbetween?


Thanks all & for bearing with me

A member over at Howardforums said that the reason so many are having issues with their thumbnail pics not being displayed is because they are saved to device memory and not a memory card...but that shouldn't make any difference. Memory is memory...if you have plenty, you have plenty.

This, and other negative "features" of the .190 version are bugs pure and simple. The .190 beta had widespread issues...and apparently this "official" version will too.

Oh well...

I updated from the stock BB Bold (AT&T) straight to 190 without any issues and am receiving Google Email as push with no lag.

fwiw

i have the 190 beta installed and may be i'd wait for the next release though

.190 is the best version so far.