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11-24-2008, 10:54 AM
Just a quick hello to everyone as this is my first post!
Back on the subject at hand, I have updated from .185 and everything went perfect (on DM 4.7, used the Loader.exe just to avoid any mishaps).
I have noticed, however, that there is a slight calendar issue. I have birthdays associated with some of my contacts, and I noticed that the calendar reminders for all birthdays have been advanced by one (1) day, e.g. if the birthday was 12/24, the reminder would be 12/23. Everything was fine prior to the update. I'm using the Bold Today Plus theme, if that makes any difference.
Any thoughts on that? Has anyone experienced anything similar or can corroborate this?
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11-24-2008, 11:00 AM
Welcome to the BBForums.
The theme should not make a difference, but have seen the all day event calendar stuff messed up when syncing with Outlook. Did you sync to Outlook?
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11-24-2008, 11:02 AM
Welcome.
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Originally Posted by Kriptic Katerpillar
Is the first number the OS & the second the firmware?
Use the first number, ignore the second.
Also can I upgrade straight to .190 without upgrading to those inbetween?
Yes, you can.
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11-24-2008, 11:09 AM
I did indeed sync with Outlook just before starting the upgrade process, as a precaution to avoid loosing my contacts (the rest is pretty much recoverable).
I have done so because after upgrading to .185 whenever I would do a backup the process would stop with an error and I feared it might happen the same during the backup made during the update (which it didn't actually, just went smoothly).
K, so this might explain it. Thanks for the quick reply! Anyway, people who rely heavily on the calendar should check post-upgrade just to make sure that there are no issues.
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Streaming problem with .190? -
11-24-2008, 12:48 PM
Upgraded my at&t bold to .190 today. Everything seems to work fine, except now I cannot stream media over 3g (or the mobile network at all). Wifi streaming works fine. Over 3g, the media player pops up, and displays "Loading..." in the green box at the top right of the screen. Eventually gives up with the message "Wireless network connection disconnected. Verify connection settings." Anybody else seeing this? Any ideas how to fix?
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11-24-2008, 01:01 PM
Wirelessly posted (Bold 9000)
I've been running the beta now for almost 3 weeks and not had a bug cept for the thumbnail not showing up when saved to device memory.
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11-24-2008, 01:43 PM
From what I've read here so far there seems to be mixed reviews on 190 versus 185, at least--some improvements, some problems. My guess is that BB will be coming out with a newer version soon, and maybe it makes sense to wait for this upgrade, considering all that you have to go through in every upgrade.
My 185 works quite well--there is reasonable, not great, battery life, running all three, BT, Wi-Fi and 3G, at the same time, and no bugs (for me).
Just my take on it.
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11-24-2008, 05:22 PM
im trying to install this software on my rogers bold that has 4.6.0.162 and it wont load at all i deleted the vendor file and it still wont load. also im in the process of trying to make my bold work on tmobile with all features including internet. but i cant do any of the above so im pretty much stuck at a stand still. i really want the new software and im running 4.6 desktop software
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11-24-2008, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JSanders
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Thankyou Sir
So I'm on .126, looks like i've got a little way to go 
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11-24-2008, 08:37 PM
since upgrading to .190 this afternoon, it does not let me play movies, .3gp videos in attachments. It was working perfectly on the ATT out of the store Bold, but now it gives me the error" this type cannot be played on your device"
ANY IDEAS!? i don't wanna downgrade because I'm enjoying the increased battery life and browser speed
am i missing any attachment handlers??
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11-24-2008, 09:45 PM
Argh, any fixes on the thumbnail issue? That seems to be my only problem now that I've upgraded. Everything else is working smoothly.
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11-24-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JosieGrossie
Argh, any fixes on the thumbnail issue? That seems to be my only problem now that I've upgraded. Everything else is working smoothly.
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The inability to view my thumbnail pics cut it for me...and I downgraded back to .185 and have had no issues at all. I'm staying put until an official upgrade comes down the pike that is really an improvement.
Some say that this problem only occurs to those that aren't using a memory card to store pictures on...and are instead utilizing device memory only. I don't have a memory card yet, but even so it doesn't make sense that .185 would allow me to see my thumbnails and .190 won't...
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11-24-2008, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by davistld01
The inability to view my thumbnail pics cut it for me...and I downgraded back to .185 and have had no issues at all. I'm staying put until an official upgrade comes down the pike that is really an improvement.
Some say that this problem only occurs to those that aren't using a memory card to store pictures on...and are instead utilizing device memory only. I don't have a memory card yet, but even so it doesn't make sense that .185 would allow me to see my thumbnails and .190 won't...
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I was about to post about this, but decided to search first. Glad to hear I'm not the only one having issues.
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11-25-2008, 12:49 AM
It not allow to download from China's IP
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11-25-2008, 02:07 AM
hey guys,
i'm new to this form too... just been doing a lot of reading and not much posting...
Rogers in canada just launched the .162 about 2 months ago, and the bb has been working really really well. but from the knowledge gained from this site, it feels like rogers is way tooo far behind... since i'm new to the form and dont know much about BB plz dont take offense to anything i say.
there is lot of info between the .185 and .190. It seems like the only constant problem with the .190 is the "Thumbnails", but i wonder what is it that the other users are doing to see some problems that others dont, ie video streaming, e-mail delays, wi-fi problems and so on. What is it that you are doing different compare to other that are running .190 without any problems. Is it because u are in different areas, or different way of installing is what is causing the difference in the .190 running well or not.
just a thought...
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11-25-2008, 04:07 AM
I too have the thumbnail issue. I tried everything to get it to work. Removed the battery, removed the pics and put them back on, etc. Still doesn't show thumbnails. It's not a deal breaker for me so I'm sticking with .190 until a new ver. comes out. Until then it's just an annoyance... sigh
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11-25-2008, 06:26 AM
I just installed the .190 and during the process i lost texas hold'em king 2 when I upgraded. I looked for the alx and the cod and i found it. I tried adding it but it's giving me the error of no other application found on your device when i load the alx. Any ideas?
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11-25-2008, 09:54 AM
Finally, don't know how, but using the loader.exe, was able to get .190 installed on my ATT branded unit  !
I think everything transferred, and yes Texas Hold 'Em King 2 is there also.
Thanks to John, and all those that helped!
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11-25-2008, 04:42 PM
I've read a lot of posts from people saying they can't view thumbnails, but decided to give it a try anyway. So far, so good as I can view them still.
The issue that is driving me crazy is that MS Live doesn't work and just hangs!
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11-25-2008, 04:53 PM
Wirelessly posted (Bold 9000)
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Originally Posted by xkylar
I just installed the .190 and during the process i lost texas hold'em king 2 when I upgraded. I looked for the alx and the cod and i found it. I tried adding it but it's giving me the error of no other application found on your device when i load the alx. Any ideas?
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Its gonna install with the pack. I couldn't find it when I in the app list got worried but went thru with the install and it was there.
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11-25-2008, 04:54 PM
have gone from .167 to .190 and the key differences I have seen are:
Connected to BES:
Ability to view emails in HTML !!!
Ability to search availability of attendees for calendar invites!!
Bluetooth now asks for password before switching on - safer i guess
App Memory free roughly ~ 40mb
No thumbnail issue with pictures
Perfomance quite smooth
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.190 and Calendar not working -
11-25-2008, 05:09 PM
Has anyone else found an issue with opening Calendar with the updated OS
Jon M. Cohen 
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11-25-2008, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ChestR_MolestR
Wirelessly posted (Bold 9000)
Its gonna install with the pack. I couldn't find it when I in the app list got worried but went thru with the install and it was there.
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All 4 games installed fine but the THK2 is not on the games folder. I thought it was hidden so I chose "show all" but it didn't help. I went to Options > Adv Options > Applications and it's not showing there either. The only thing I deleted from my hard drive was the device.xml file. I know this is nothing big but it's a mystery to me lol.
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11-25-2008, 06:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davistld01
The inability to view my thumbnail pics cut it for me...and I downgraded back to .185 and have had no issues at all. I'm staying put until an official upgrade comes down the pike that is really an improvement.
Some say that this problem only occurs to those that aren't using a memory card to store pictures on...and are instead utilizing device memory only. I don't have a memory card yet, but even so it doesn't make sense that .185 would allow me to see my thumbnails and .190 won't...
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Yep, I went back to 185 and everything's fine.
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11-25-2008, 06:27 PM
I'm assuming that all of you guys are using a Bold that is "locked" correct? Anyone running this .190 with an unlocked Bold? Trying to narrow down to see if there is a correlation with some of the problems. It's a long shot but worth mentioning.
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11-25-2008, 07:03 PM
Wirelessly posted (8300)
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/25/killzone-2-will-have-no-installation-optional-or-otherwise/
Has anyone noticed an issue where images/text aren't spacing right in the render?
Thay image looks ontop of the txt almost. I don't rememeber having this issue on .162/7(att). Does this also occur on .185 its starting to annoy me. Liking .190 got quite a few more hour glasses but that seemed to go away like ~30 after a reboot/reset. The signal acquisition for the gps is like 400% faster like sub 30-45 second. And the signal for 3g definitley better(but getting fake readings slower updaye to dead zone. Anyone else?
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11-25-2008, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JSanders
We have?
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I thought we had. I guess it was just temporary. At any rate I got a brand new Bold yesterday, fresh and virgin. Came right home and did the upgrade fresh.
I had a lemon Bold to begin with. The headset that comes with it was full static. I couldn't tell if it was the jack or the headset itself. Also towards the end I was getting feedback when using the speakerphone. It was like it was full duplex or something.
All is well now. New Bold, new OS, unlocked, and all good.
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11-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Just upgraded to .190 from .126 and i gotta say that .190 in general seems snappier, apart from the pic thumbnails & opening pics seem a bit laggy compared to .126.
Everything so far seems to work, and it even cured my MMS receiving problem, thats all sorted now  (was getting the: Error 500 thingy)!
The only strange thing is that when i go to watch the Speed Racer demo vid, it starts at the 10sec mark, which it never did before, always started from the beggining? (and i have stopped it, reset it to 00:00s and exited, then tried again and always at 10s? Any ideas, can i delete it and reload it?
Otherwise .190 looks good so far, i'll keep you'll posted 
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11-25-2008, 09:33 PM
This version of .190 must be beta I have noticed some serious flaws in it. Magnum created a theme for me which worked great on .185 however under .190 it's been nothing but a head ache.
The first picture below is what my screen looks like after I custimized the location of my icons under the theme Magnum made and the picture after this one shows what happens to the icons after the BB goes into black mode and I wake it up by pressing any key. The interesting part is when the screen is about to fade to black I see the icons shifting around... If I tap on the BB key (key to the left of the trackball) the icons flip back to normal. Also if I have 4 rows of icons I can't navigate to the 4th row after the screen saver (bottom picture) until I hit the BB key and reset everything.
Secondly I have pre-installed MP3's on my media card, and I have been noticing that when I select random songs and click to play them the media player ends up playing the next song in the list and not the one I selected.
I don't think this is the official .190 and that someone mistakenly posted the beta online because my .185 never did this...
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11-25-2008, 09:57 PM
Where can I find the .185 OS
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11-25-2008, 10:30 PM
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Where can I find the .185 OS
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11-26-2008, 04:18 AM
hi,
i downloaded everything as instructed, installed and when connect my bb it says update and i did and its took 45 minutes and told. everything fine but one thing, still i go to option about its still my os is 4.6.165 and in desctop software i go to update it shows 3 version,
blackberry 4.6.0.331 for 9000
blackberry 4.6 (current)
blackberry 4.6 (downgrade)
and i am removing some unwanted cod in java folder to removed modules and installing all themes but still its does not appear.
plz advice
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11-26-2008, 08:09 AM
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Thanks.
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11-26-2008, 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmedov
hi,
i downloaded everything as instructed, installed and when connect my bb it says update and i did and its took 45 minutes and told. everything fine but one thing, still i go to option about its still my os is 4.6.165 and in desctop software i go to update it shows 3 version,
blackberry 4.6.0.331 for 9000
blackberry 4.6 (current)
blackberry 4.6 (downgrade)
and i am removing some unwanted cod in java folder to removed modules and installing all themes but still its does not appear.
plz advice
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11-26-2008, 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothRunnings
This version of .190 must be beta I have noticed some serious flaws in it. Magnum created a theme for me which worked great on .185 however under .190 it's been nothing but a head ache.
The first picture below is what my screen looks like after I custimized the location of my icons under the theme Magnum made and the picture after this one shows what happens to the icons after the BB goes into black mode and I wake it up by pressing any key. The interesting part is when the screen is about to fade to black I see the icons shifting around... If I tap on the BB key (key to the left of the trackball) the icons flip back to normal. Also if I have 4 rows of icons I can't navigate to the 4th row after the screen saver (bottom picture) until I hit the BB key and reset everything.
Secondly I have pre-installed MP3's on my media card, and I have been noticing that when I select random songs and click to play them the media player ends up playing the next song in the list and not the one I selected.
I don't think this is the official .190 and that someone mistakenly posted the beta online because my .185 never did this...
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Well if it's from the RIM site it's not a beta - they never post betas, those get leaked which is why linking to them is banned here.
Also, I would blame the "non-standard" theme first before blaming an official release firmware. Sure, it may have broken a use created theme, but that can be a fix that's either clearing a bug that was being exploited (intentionally or by accident) by the theme, or it's simply a new bug which happens unfortunately.
Does the same happen with the default theme?
I do know that each theme has it's own settings as even with two different themes of the same family by the same author, if I change something in one and swap themes, the change is lost. A bit annoying really. Perhaps removing the theme and reinstalling it will clear the problem.
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11-26-2008, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DSS597
I'm assuming that all of you guys are using a Bold that is "locked" correct? Anyone running this .190 with an unlocked Bold? Trying to narrow down to see if there is a correlation with some of the problems. It's a long shot but worth mentioning.
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Nope, mines an unlocked version. I don't have the thumbnail issue, but have random reboots and the fact that Live Search doesn't work drives me crazy. I just started having issues with response time when using the trackball and other minor bugs.
Finally went back to .185 this morning and all seems well again, except for that memory leak. But too me that's not a big deal.
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11-26-2008, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DSS597
I'm assuming that all of you guys are using a Bold that is "locked" correct? Anyone running this .190 with an unlocked Bold? Trying to narrow down to see if there is a correlation with some of the problems. It's a long shot but worth mentioning.
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All our handsets regardless of make and provider are unlocked here in Luxembourg, and .190 is by far the best performer for me whereas .185 was a disaster.
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11-26-2008, 11:45 AM
i just upgraded. and the thumbnail issue is a pain. i can view thumbnails if i go to the 'picture folders' folder, however, if i click 'all pictures' you can view certain thumbnails and you can't the others. it's not THAT big a deal, but oh well, at least the rest of it works great... so far!
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11-26-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Taomyn
Well if it's from the RIM site it's not a beta - they never post betas, those get leaked which is why linking to them is banned here.
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That's the dumbest thing I have heard anyone say on here... Welcome to planet earth, here you will find human beings that are prone to making mistakes. As I have already pointed out it's possible someone posted posted the beta .190 not realizing what they did... It's only human.
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Originally Posted by Taomyn
Also, I would blame the "non-standard" theme first before blaming an official release firmware. Sure, it may have broken a use created theme, but that can be a fix that's either clearing a bug that was being exploited (intentionally or by accident) by the theme, or it's simply a new bug which happens unfortunately.
Does the same happen with the default theme?
I do know that each theme has it's own settings as even with two different themes of the same family by the same author, if I change something in one and swap themes, the change is lost. A bit annoying really. Perhaps removing the theme and reinstalling it will clear the problem.
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Yes the glitch happens on the default theme as well.
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11-26-2008, 03:02 PM
Wirelessly posted
With all the issues, I'm going to wait.
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