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Old 11-26-2008, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

This question is for the people that purchased the Bold after the Storm had been released.
I want a 3G BB (for tethering) and would prefer to stay away from Verizon, however their offering for the Storm seems to be unanswered by ATT.

What were the deciding factors that made you pick the Bold, when (based on their websites) it's so much more expensive?

Thanks!
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1) The Bold does 3G on AT&T, Storm doesn't.

2) The Bold has both GPS and WiFi, Storm doesn't.

3) The Bold does multi-tasking (talk on the phone while surfing the web), Storm doesn't.

4) Heard a lot of complaints about the calibration of the touch screen on the Storm.

5) Everything that the Storm can do, so can the Bold. (minus the touch screen)
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Hello,

This question is for the people that purchased the Bold after the Storm had been released.
I want a 3G BB (for tethering) and would prefer to stay away from Verizon, however their offering for the Storm seems to be unanswered by ATT.

What were the deciding factors that made you pick the Bold, when (based on their websites) it's so much more expensive?

Thanks!
I'm not a big fan of touch screen phones... for me i chose the bold because of the physical keyboard.
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've had a play with the Storm, and hate it. - for all the above reasons... - mostly the touch screen, and the way it feels.. and all the reasons highlighted, are why i bought the bold
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Thanks for the reply guys.

I'm a believer that you'll get what you pay for, I just want to make sure the additional $200 is justified since I don't think I qualify for ATT's mail in rebate...
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If you've been with AT&T for more than 6 months, but you're not eligible for an upgrade, you can do an "Exceptional Upgrade". Which means you pay the upgrade price of $399 + an early upgrade cost of $75. Then you also get the mail-in rebate of $100. So it works out to being $374 when it's all said and done. Also, you can get money for your old BB from RIM's Trade-up Program.
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See my post here....basically the bold is WAY faster and day to day tasks I have grown accustomed to on my BB for years are just a royal pain in the ass on the Storm.

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Thanks Eric.
I'm in a similar situation, coming from a pearl (8120) which has served me well.
My ST typing is pretty good and I do think that the delays on the key will eventually get on my nerves...
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If you've been with AT&T for more than 6 months, but you're not eligible for an upgrade, you can do an "Exceptional Upgrade". Which means you pay the upgrade price of $399 + an early upgrade cost of $75. Then you also get the mail-in rebate of $100. So it works out to being $374 when it's all said and done. Also, you can get money for your old BB from RIM's Trade-up Program.
Yea, this is true and it's exactly what I'm going to do on Dec. 6 when I reach that six month point.
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If you've been with AT&T for more than 6 months, but you're not eligible for an upgrade, you can do an "Exceptional Upgrade". Which means you pay the upgrade price of $399 + an early upgrade cost of $75. Then you also get the mail-in rebate of $100. So it works out to being $374 when it's all said and done. Also, you can get money for your old BB from RIM's Trade-up Program.
Im surprised your familiar with this policy, We have only been offering it for 2 months or something. There was some debate as to if the bold was gonna be able to be used in the Exception upgrade option.first 2 days it was a negative, but now its been cleared
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I have both in front of me right now. In addition I have the 8220 Flip Pearl.

Tried the Storm and really didn't like. An immediate reaction. It was laggy, and I just didn't like the touch screen design. Coulnd't get used to it - although I know that others will like it. And I felt the lag was awful.

Really liked the Bold. I have unlocked it (thanks Horizon Wireless for such superb service) and am using it on T-Mobile. Even without the 3G, I like it a lot. Since I had a less the excellent experience with the iPhone 3G, I am not going to miss 3G much. The WiFi works great (without UMA).

I am sure I am going to miss UMA, but that is only until the Javelin comes out.

Which I expect to be mid Q1, 2009, and certainly not on Friday!
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I have both in front of me right now. In addition I have the 8220 Flip Pearl.

Tried the Storm and really didn't like. An immediate reaction. It was laggy, and I just didn't like the touch screen design. Coulnd't get used to it - although I know that others will like it. And I felt the lag was awful.

Really liked the Bold. I have unlocked it (thanks Horizon Wireless for such superb service) and am using it on T-Mobile. Even without the 3G, I like it a lot. Since I had a less the excellent experience with the iPhone 3G, I am not going to miss 3G much. The WiFi works great (without UMA).

I am sure I am going to miss UMA, but that is only until the Javelin comes out.

Which I expect to be mid Q1, 2009, and certainly not on Friday!
That's a great recommendation! Can't wait to get my Bold!
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The Storm is frustratingly laggy. I was getting annoyed walking people through activating it.
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The Storm is frustratingly laggy. I was getting annoyed walking people through activating it.

I have the same sense just from hearing what people are saying, as well as looking at it myself.
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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1) The Bold does 3G on AT&T, Storm doesn't.

2) The Bold has both GPS and WiFi, Storm doesn't.

3) The Bold does multi-tasking (talk on the phone while surfing the web), Storm doesn't.

4) Heard a lot of complaints about the calibration of the touch screen on the Storm.

5) Everything that the Storm can do, so can the Bold. (minus the touch screen)
I tend to have a higher tolerance for pain over early adopters. Thus, when the early reviews come out that lean on the side of negative I don't always agree. I went to try the Storm *after* ordering one.

In my opinion it comes down to speed. I'm willing to wager a lot of people would have a higher tolerance for some of the quirks if the phone was more responsive. For instance, their predictive text (similar to iPhone) could work okay. However, the phone stalls almost every time it kicks in making it seem rough.

I could have lived without Wifi, made the keyboard work (not as bad as I thought it would be), and even switched to Verizon. But, the phone is sadly way too underpowered. You stack that with adding a touchscreen to a phone that wasn't designed to be touched. It just doesn't work well. I'm terribly shocked and dissapointed I couldn't learn to love the phone.

On the other hand I had never considered a Bold. The same day I went to play with the Storm I went to try out the Bold. All I have to say is:

Umm, wow?

The Bold sets a new expectation from RIM in their blackberry phones. It is so incredibly responsive. EVERYTHING is nicer about this phone (in my opinion). While it has a smaller screen it generally tends to be the same size as most of the screens you end up looking at on the Storm. IE, when the keyboard is out on the Storm.. you probably get more screen on a Bold.

Features aside (3G, Wifi, Etc); the biggest win is how smooth it feels to have instant response on a blackberry. The irony about the 3G phones that people don't consider is that data is usually pouring into a blackberry faster than the phone can render the data. Meaning, shoving data at the phone faster won't make the phone *seem* faster. For the first time, Blackberry has released a phone that comes really close to rendering data as fast as it can get it. The exception being their browser is still sub-par to an iPhone. =(

I've had a Blackberry since 1999'ish back when they were pagers. I've used almost every carrier and *almost* all of their models through the years. Even the giant Nextel black-and-white push-to-talk from years ago. Then the color version. You get the point... With that history I can safely say the Bold is by far their best phone they've released. Size/Weight are the only arguments personal preference might change for some folks but I'm pretty sure if you give it a week you will be happy. It's *that* good...

DISCLAIMER: My opinion is based purely on the phone. AT&T is really good here in Austin, TX. Verizon is similar but way more dropped calls. Either way, the phone is awesome but AT&T may suck in your area. I read a lot of negativity on the east and west coast about AT&T where Sprint is the terrible provider here in Austin.

Also, this is less of a dogging on the Storm than it is a happy sentiment towards the Bold. I'd wager if folks overlooked size/weight/cheesy leather backing for a week and used the Bold they'd have a hard time going back to a Curve or Pearl as well.
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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^^ Great post Ben!! Thanks!!

I currently have the storm and will be returning it... Considering the bold as its replacement.
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Couldn't agree w/ Ben more....the Bold flies....I'm glad I got it before trying out the storm b/c I may have been satisfied w/ the Storm's laggy performance. But coming from the Bold it was so noticeable that I couldn't keep the Storm.

Was concerned about the size of the Bold (coming from a Pearl) before I got it. But now I view the size as one of its best features....feels so good in your hand and is very comfortable to type on.
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I was waiting for the Storm to arrive here in Canada, but David Pogue's article convinced me to cancel that plan. I ordered a Bold yesterday from Rogers.
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For me it was all about the QWERTY keyboard!
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For me it was all about the QWERTY keyboard!
The Storm does have a QWERTY keyboard if you turn it Landsccape. Pearl style portrait.

I have to say, I have much less incorect password errors on the Bold compared to my 8800. And less errors in e-mails and texts. Plus spell check rocks!

The Bold keyboard should be the model on which all other non touch screen KB's are measured.
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