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Old 12-20-2008, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I use a Jabra JX10 Series II or a Plantronics Discovery 925 Bluetooth Headsets with my Bold, Can the Bold be made to Autoanswer a phone call? my previous Nokias would come "off hook" after the first Ring and hang up aftter the calling party did with no intervention from me, truly a hands free device, although my new Bolds (Me and 2 daughters) are infinatly more functional and fun than my previous phones Autoanswer is a feature that I really miss, am I just overlooking a menu somewhere? Thank you Everyone.

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I don't have a bold but on my curve I know if you hit your send key then the bb key and select option, general settings there is an auto answer feature there
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There is an Autoanswer option : hit the green phone call button, then MENU > OPTIONS > GENERAL OPTIONS

However the only choices I see are NEVER and OUT OF HOLSTER. I've not tried it myself.

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Auto-Answer Out Of Holster is to let the Bold answer the call by simply taking the phone out of the holster. That is the only auto-answer option for the Bold. Your bluetooth headsets have an answer/hangup button on them, one push and you are good to go. Yes, I know it requires a button press, but that is how it is designed.

No luck for fully hands-free operation.
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This has been answered last week.. All Bluetooth headsets (ones more expensive then $20 that is) have a button on them to answer the call from your ear piece. You would never want auto answer because if you threw it in your bag and left to go to a meeting or class, your phone rings and then your ear piece would answer it. Would not be a cool thing to have happen. Plus I think your bill could get a little high if it was an automated system that never hung up.
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What an ignorant answer!

Yes you are right all BT headsets have an answer button (well I have never seen any without at least, and I have a couple I bought for less than $10).

But just because you don't think it practical doesn't mean some of us will not find it handy.

I for one miss it a bit in my car, although I haven't tried, I don't think I can fit my car (and bluetooth carkit) in my bag.
But even through I find it pretty ridiculous, that an expensive BlackBerry can't do what a normal cellphone have done in more than ten years, it's not such a big issue for me, since I can answer on the carkit controlpannel.
But googling this thing I came across a motorcycle riders forum, I don't think I need to repeat there opinion about this...

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While I will not get into the debate of whether it is a useful option or not, since that is purely opinion, I do want to correct you on your assumption. It isn't "that an expensive BlackBerry can't do what a normal cellphone have done in more than ten years", as you put it. It is technically possible, it just isn't programmed as an option.

If you feel so strongly about having this option available, I would suggest looking into writing an application for the BlackBerry that will allow for this feature. I bet you could make some money selling it to other like-minded people.
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I don't think the answer was ignorant at all, just a different point of view; just like "the cheap phones do "this' but the Blackberry does not":

- change time zones automatically,

- vibrate and ring at the same time,

- have a silent camera shutter sound,

- allow html images in email to display automatically,

- etc.

There is a reason that these things are the way that they are: primarily security and reliability. BB's are still primarily business devices even though they are becoming more consumer oriented. Yes, I agree that it would be cool to be given choices on some of these things I listed above, but if not given the choice, I prefer things as they are rather than what many want/suggest. There is usually a reason that things are the way they are, and not that RIM can't figure out how to program something. Those reasons are just not always apparent to some of us (myself included).
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I don't think the answer was ignorant at all, just a different point of view; just like "the cheap phones do "this' but the Blackberry does not":

- change time zones automatically,

- vibrate and ring at the same time,

- have a silent camera shutter sound,

- allow html images in email to display automatically,

- etc.

There is a reason that these things are the way that they are: primarily security and reliability. BB's are still primarily business devices even though they are becoming more consumer oriented. Yes, I agree that it would be cool to be given choices on some of these things I listed above, but if not given the choice, I prefer things as they are rather than what many want/suggest. There is usually a reason that things are the way they are, and not that RIM can't figure out how to program something. Those reasons are just not always apparent to some of us (myself included).
Thank you... its just consumers wanting consumer level options in a corporate device. You have to realize that and there is a balance. Why do you think a phone you drop once and is broken costs $299 ona 3 year contract price but a BB can cost $199 on a 3 year and does 10 times what a crappy cell phone does. It because they don't care about the little things and concentrate at doing the important things right. its not to say those option are stupid or no worthy but again if it was woth the investment they would do it.

I know for a fact if they had auto answer on the phone and some idiot left it on and got a $5000 bill they would scream bloody murder and blame RIM for adding such a feature that would allow them to do this. Then they would hand the bill to RIM and say you pay it.

Its not because people wouldn't use it. Its because they would and it would come back to haunt them not to mention security. People only think of their implamintation of the feature and don't look around the corner. Could you imagine the security problems if auto answer was on a device that was used in a high level security facility or FBI etc just call their phone hope they dont answer it and then just listen...

Again its not that its a dumb idea, its that it could have drastic lash back to RIM for allowing it.

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- allow html images in email to display automatically
On my Bold, that is possible. Under "Email Settings" I have the option "Download Images Automatically". Of course, on many enterprise environments, this setting has been disabled by central policy.
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On my Bold, that is possible. Under "Email Settings" I have the option "Download Images Automatically". Of course, on many enterprise environments, this setting has been disabled by central policy.
I'm getting sick of correcting this comment no bash meant but people must understand.

Downloading images automatically is only for inbedded images and it is designed to save money for the user. This way if a spammer keeps sending you email you dont want and you have to download the images every time it could become very costly to you and so they added this feature to prevent this from happening.

You are correct yes this can be set at the BES level but most BES people have good data plans

This option still does not fix when images are liked to the email not inbedded because of security you have to tell it to get these images because they reside on a server there is no way to tell what code you are sending them to get the image. You can be confirming your email address, IP address, anything that JavaScript could pull about your device.

So this user is talking about the last option that you cant have it go get these external images

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OK, so what we would like are the following options

- Download INTERNAL Images Automatically (this exists on the BB)
- Download EXTERNAL Images Automatically (this doesn't exist on the BB, but exists on Outlook)

But I am getting OT here. Regarding the Autoanswer feature: I personally don't need that feature at all, but I understand that some people would like to have it. But it might be dangerous as well, especially in the business world.
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Okay now is probably the time for me to come clean and admit that I'm generally not very impressed by the BlackBerry, and I only have it since it was forced down my trout by my company.

Before this I had a HTC Wizard windows mobile phone, and I was very happy about that. I have never had a more configurable phone, it did ANY thing I would like it to, and the amount of applications was impressive.

Getting back on topic:
I can really not see why the auto answer is a security issue. First of all it will only be active when a headset/carkit is connected. Secondly it is disabled by default on all the phones I have seen, so if you enable it you should be aware of the risks.

The excuses of BlackBerry being for business and the possible lawsuits against RIM is very lame.
Don't you think business men who spend half of there day in there car (like some sales people), would like the auto answer option?
And I really can't see how the auto answer would cost you money. Do you pay for being called? (well you do if you are in a foreign country, but otherwise).
IF it was such a big concern don't you think that major companies like Nokia and Sony/Ericsson would be afraid of having that option in there phones?

I really think this just stupid, the other things mentioned on the list I can find reasons for (maybe expect the timezone thing, which many other phones don't do ether), but this is so very common on all other (and much older) phones, I really don't think there is any excuse not to have it.

And then I would like to add one thing more to the list:

vCard sending. The BB's desperately lacks the functionality of sending contacts from the address book via SMS and bluetooth, again a feature all other phones have had for years.
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Thank you... its just consumers wanting consumer level options in a corporate device. You have to realize that and there is a balance. Why do you think a phone you drop once and is broken costs $299 ona 3 year contract price but a BB can cost $199 on a 3 year and does 10 times what a crappy cell phone does. It because they don't care about the little things and concentrate at doing the important things right. its not to say those option are stupid or no worthy but again if it was woth the investment they would do it.

I know for a fact if they had auto answer on the phone and some idiot left it on and got a $5000 bill they would scream bloody murder and blame RIM for adding such a feature that would allow them to do this. Then they would hand the bill to RIM and say you pay it.

Its not because people wouldn't use it. Its because they would and it would come back to haunt them not to mention security. People only think of their implamintation of the feature and don't look around the corner. Could you imagine the security problems if auto answer was on a device that was used in a high level security facility or FBI etc just call their phone hope they dont answer it and then just listen...

Again its not that its a dumb idea, its that it could have drastic lash back to RIM for allowing it.
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You would never want auto answer because if you threw it in your bag and left to go to a meeting or class, your phone rings and then your ear piece would answer it.
Two points:

1) RIM could easily add some kind of autoanswer capability, and just have it disabled by default. Those who wish to use it, say, with a Bluetooth headset, should be able to.

2) While I understand your concern regarding the lack of security with a Bluetooth headset and autoanswer, there are excellent headsets from Motorola that negate the possibility of an accidental button press. I have a Motorola H700 that has a folding microphone. To even turn on the headset, you first need to extend the mic, which is a lot harder to do than accidentally pressing a button. I've kept mine (and previous models) in my pockets for years, and I've never had my phones auto answer. It can even be used by paranoid, corporate business-types.
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