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Default 02-20-2009, 09:40 AM

There have been soo many Beta releases since this, I cannot remember the reviews of this when it was leaked as a Beta... Will this have corrections to any issues that was on the beta of .221? I'm just trying to get a better understanding. Thx!


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Thumbs up Just Upgraded .216 to .221 - 02-20-2009, 09:41 AM

Just upgraded from .216 to .221 (multilanguage) and everything works like a charm... I hope this would fix the rebooting issue once and for all
   
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Default 02-20-2009, 10:12 AM

Any noticeable changes? I am still on .167 w/ AT&T and have been debating an upgrade for quite some time now.


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Default 02-20-2009, 02:00 PM

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Any noticeable changes? I am still on .167 w/ AT&T and have been debating an upgrade for quite some time now.
I went from the .167 to this one and it made a huge difference in the speed of my media, I only had around 200 or so mp3s but it was dog slow on .167 and now it flies.

Battery life seems worse .... not sure if something else happened in the last week but that might have been due to the upgrade - I'm on the "edge" of 3G and Edge so my phone does nothing but switch all day so ...

Call setup seems more stable on these later builds for me, on .167 I got Call Failed all the freaking time.
   
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Default 02-20-2009, 02:08 PM

I finally upgraded (from .162) after 5-6 failed attempts, I was running Desktop Manager before I deleted the vendor.xml file. :o

I haven't really played around with it to notice any difference.
   
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Default 02-20-2009, 06:01 PM

Upgraded from .190 to .221 and am happy so far. I figured I'd have the Visual Voicemail icon on my AT&T Bold, but it's not there (looked everywhere).


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Default 02-20-2009, 07:03 PM

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Hey everyone,
For those who tried the upgrade, is BES re-activation required like .216?
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Yes, anytime you upgrade the device, a BES reactivation is required; unless you upgrade using a PC that is on the same network as the BES server and the Desktop Manager was installed using the BES option.
I am on BES and when I upgraded to .216 I used loader.exe in accordance with the instructions above and had to get the IT guys to get me a new activation password. This afternoon I upgraded to .221 using desktop mamager on my office computer as recommended above and got reactivated - reinialized without a problem. Good advice above.
   
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Default 02-20-2009, 08:04 PM

this OS sucks:(
had the avea 216 was gr8
upgraded to this my phone got heated up so fast all the time
and battery died after 2 hours with barely usage...
on 216 had to charge once in 2 days and never heated up
wired...
   
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Default 02-21-2009, 12:23 PM

I have used this OS for several days [upgrade from 167] -> Several comments:

YES, you have to do new Enterprise activation if you are on BES
YES, reboot of the phone takes much LONGER time than 167
YES, it still has random drop connection issue on AT&T (during call)

I had the BB restart on me, while playing a mp3 audio file once.
Battery life - seems about the same. I say either buy AutoStandby program or put the phone on StandBy when not using it, set Backlight Brightness = 10, Timeout = 20 secs. to maximize battery life.

No major issue. I never had battery heat up issue on mine.
I'm satisfied with 221.
I just hate it that I have to re-activate BES and also re-configure my LaunchPad preset settings after OS upgrade.
   
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Default 02-21-2009, 04:56 PM

My battery life seems better than with .190. Been using it fairly hard all day with Beejive and SocialScope running in the background and still have 4/5 bars of battery life. Normally would be down to 3/5 by now with this type of usage.


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Default 02-21-2009, 09:09 PM

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Upgraded from .190 to .221 and am happy so far. I figured I'd have the Visual Voicemail icon on my AT&T Bold, but it's not there (looked everywhere).
That "172" that appears on the top screen from time to time must be the Visual Voice mail error on AT&T. I'm on 221 with no issues. Hopefully, AT&T releases their own updated OS firmware that includes the service soon...


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Default 02-21-2009, 09:18 PM

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hi guys....im from malaysia and I'm using celcom as my carrier on Bold 9000. I was wondering if anyone know whats the latest OS for bold and where can I gt it.I did call my carrier's helpline and they don't know as well. My current OS is v4.6.0.162(platform 4.0.0.155)
can anyone please help me out as my batt is always low eventhough I don't use much and my memory is also low eventhough I only have 3 third pary app installed. I've read from the net that if I do a software upgrade it might fix the problem...so need some help here guys....thanx in advance
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Default 02-21-2009, 09:23 PM

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this OS sucks:(
had the avea 216 was gr8
upgraded to this my phone got heated up so fast all the time
and battery died after 2 hours with barely usage...
on 216 had to charge once in 2 days and never heated up
wired...
hmm .. perhaps you should try to removing the OS and reinstall from scratch. the heating up and short battery life issue could be due to some inproperly installed OS or program that went into a deadlock.
   
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Default 02-22-2009, 06:39 PM

Needing a bit of help guys if anyone knows the solution

Last time i done an OS upgrade i was running Windows XP SP2 however now i am running Windows 7 Beta (which is working sweet!)

I do my usual of deleting the vendor.xml file try to run it and it always jams on the uploading RAM image process.

Anyone else using Windows 7 having any problems like this?


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Default 02-23-2009, 06:09 AM

I must be missing something here, I downloaded the update, installed it to my PC, went to Common Files/Rim/etc deleted vendor.xml and ran Loader.exe but it just asks me what programs I'd like to add/remove and if I don't change any of them (there is nothing about Core files or anything in there) it just says there is nothing to do.

Am I missing a step here?

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Default 02-23-2009, 06:33 AM

Did you have .162 installed on the PC? and if so have you unistalled it?
It may be recognising that instead of the new one.


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Default 02-23-2009, 06:45 AM

I had 162 on the pc but uninstalled it before installing the new one in case it may interfere.
   
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Default 02-23-2009, 07:11 AM

plug the BB in the PC, wait for it to be found etc. then serach for vendor.xml.

if you set up DM to automatically find updates or something similar, more than one vendor.xml file can be produced when plugging the BB in.
It could be theres another vendor file that isn't allowing you to update to the latest version.


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Default One question please - 02-23-2009, 07:17 AM

I am going to buy BB bold, but I like to have Arabic on it ( as a maater of fact there are arabized sets and have Arbic letters on the QWERT KB) .
My questions is, if I upgrade an English set to the Multilanguage rom, would I have Arabic then?
If yes, would it include an Arabic SW Keyboard?
   
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Default 02-23-2009, 10:55 AM

I upgraded to .221 yesterday. A bit too early for battery/signal/memory assessment, but one thing I did notice: the reboot time is now ~90 seconds.

I have run .134, .162, .167, .190, .216, .217 and for all of these OS versions, it took a good 4 to 5 minutes to boot up after a soft reset or battery pull.

This might not be a big deal for those that don't reboot often, but I do, daily. No, I don't have to reboot daily, but it keeps things fresh and avoids any issues IMO.


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Default 02-23-2009, 11:28 AM

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I upgraded to .221 yesterday. A bit too early for battery/signal/memory assessment, but one thing I did notice: the reboot time is now ~90 seconds.

I have run .134, .162, .167, .190, .216, .217 and for all of these OS versions, it took a good 4 to 5 minutes to boot up after a soft reset or battery pull.

This might not be a big deal for those that don't reboot often, but I do, daily. No, I don't have to reboot daily, but it keeps things fresh and avoids any issues IMO.
My experience also re reboot time. I have had most of the previou OS versions that you have had and this is by far the fastest at rebooting. Only 1/3 to 1/4 the time to reboot. A very significant change from .190, .216 etc.
   
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Default 02-23-2009, 11:59 AM

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plug the BB in the PC, wait for it to be found etc. then serach for vendor.xml.

if you set up DM to automatically find updates or something similar, more than one vendor.xml file can be produced when plugging the BB in.
It could be theres another vendor file that isn't allowing you to update to the latest version.
Tried that, did a search and removed any vendor files there, nothing changed.
   
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Default 02-23-2009, 02:48 PM

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this OS sucks:(
had the avea 216 was gr8
upgraded to this my phone got heated up so fast all the time
and battery died after 2 hours with barely usage...
on 216 had to charge once in 2 days and never heated up
wired...
I have experienced this before as well, and like some said before you will need to erase the apps and reload.


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Default 02-23-2009, 07:09 PM

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What about Live Search??
No, unfortunately this OS doesn't run Live Search either. That was the reason I skipped the previous OS.
   
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Default 02-23-2009, 10:57 PM

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Needing a bit of help guys if anyone knows the solution

Last time i done an OS upgrade i was running Windows XP SP2 however now i am running Windows 7 Beta (which is working sweet!)

I do my usual of deleting the vendor.xml file try to run it and it always jams on the uploading RAM image process.

Anyone else using Windows 7 having any problems like this?
Don't do it from the Windows 7 beta - I had it lock up to and I kept trying until I screwed up my phone and had to revert to basics to recover the phone. Use Vista or XP.
   
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Default 02-24-2009, 04:34 AM

Upgraded yesterday. Working great. 3G stable.
WiFi still slow.


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Default 02-24-2009, 08:37 AM

Based on what I am reading looks like I am going to stay on .167 and wait for a stable release.


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Default 02-24-2009, 11:33 AM

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Based on what I am reading looks like I am going to stay on .167 and wait for a stable release.
.216 seems very stable to me.
   
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Default 02-24-2009, 06:04 PM

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I upgraded to .221 yesterday. A bit too early for battery/signal/memory assessment, but one thing I did notice: the reboot time is now ~90 seconds.

I have run .134, .162, .167, .190, .216, .217 and for all of these OS versions, it took a good 4 to 5 minutes to boot up after a soft reset or battery pull.

This might not be a big deal for those that don't reboot often, but I do, daily. No, I don't have to reboot daily, but it keeps things fresh and avoids any issues IMO.
I'm on 221 and reboot is 6 mins+ its CRaZY.
Battery life is also very bad. When I'm in weak reception area for a while something go wrong with my radio and I cannot send anything out nor can I make phone calls, and require a phone call.

When you are in a situation when you need to make a phone call and you have to wait 6 mins + or when call gets dropped and I have to reboot in order for me to make the next call; its very disappointing.

Its been about 8 days since I had this OS build and I was forced to reboot the phone due to radio dying issue exactly 4 times.

Anyone else experienced this?!
   
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Default 02-24-2009, 09:05 PM

Battery life is so bad, :((
   
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Default 02-24-2009, 10:13 PM

upgraded mine yesterday and encountered an incident just now when the mobile network failed to reconnect after signal was dropped when I was in an elevator. I did not noticed the failed reconnection till almost an hour later and it was reconnected after I manually disable and re-enable mobile network.

anyone else encountered this?
   
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Default 02-25-2009, 09:08 PM

So I just upgraded and it's ok, except I think the CPU is being fairly heavily loaded. If I do something like play a game or go into gmail I notice my connection goes from 3G to EDGE. When I let it go back to idle it goes back to 3G after a while. I don't change my physical location the whole time. I'm on ATT. This isn't going to do, so I may go back an OS if I can.
   
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Default 02-25-2009, 10:09 PM

Just replaced my Curve with a brand new Bold, load it with 4.6.0.373 OS, everything seem to be working.

Never encounter any problem from my OS upgrade for first Pearl, previous Curve and now the new Bold.

I fully utilized the two previous model and is now enjoying the new Bold.

Great to be a Blackberry addict.

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Default 02-25-2009, 10:33 PM

Downgrading Now - never had dropped calls until the upgrade from 216 to 221. Last few days I've been getting dropped calls very regularly. Not professional or acceptable. No choice!
   
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Default 221 and battery life - 02-26-2009, 08:59 AM

I have downgraded back to 216 after a week of battery issues. I would show half a battery and holster or put the phone down and a few minutes later the phone would be completely dead. There was no battery warning or life after "too low for radio use." At first I thought that I had left gps on or an application was hanging but after a dozen times it was clear that the battery drain was accelerating at the end. It was very strange.

I have been back on 216 for three days and back to my full day and a half battery life! Oh the joy of low expectations!!

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Default 02-26-2009, 09:59 AM

Hey guys, I upgraded to .373 my unlocked bold 1 week ago. Works perfect, no glitches, once in a while the signal dropped but I believe it is my carrier that is switching to 3G technology. However I have noticed that when I make a call, a small rectangle with some diagonal stars showed up on the upper left side of the screen, looks like a dominoes piece. Keeps on during the call unless you toggle to speaker phone, when it disappeared. Any ideas of what is that?


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Default 02-26-2009, 10:26 AM

yes, search for it, theres a thread about it. something about enhanced handset call audio
green button, menu, options, general options, at the bottom, then toggel to previous or normal. if boost bass or boost treble is the option, thats what the icon is about


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Default Fatal Error Updating Software - 02-26-2009, 05:01 PM

I have downloaded the Blackberry 4.6.0.162 software, and started installing, but during the process, it suddenly aborts with a message:

"A fatal error has occurred while updating your device's software. Please try again"

No matter how many times I "try again", it fails at the same spot. Can anyone suggest what I can do to get my phone's software upgraded.

The installation was done using Blackberry 470_b050_english_nomediamanager.exe

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I have downloaded the Blackberry 4.6.0.162 software, and started installing, but during the process, it suddenly aborts with a message:

"A fatal error has occurred while updating your device's software. Please try again"

No matter how many times I "try again", it fails at the same spot. Can anyone suggest what I can do to get my phone's software upgraded.

The installation was done using Blackberry 470_b050_english_nomediamanager.exe

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Default 02-26-2009, 07:53 PM

I had the same problem with this OS. I downgraded back to 4.6.0.216 and 3G has been stable!!

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