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Old 04-15-2009, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a new Blackberry Bold 9000, which I chose as a free upgrade to my mobile plan from Orange partly because it has WiFi capability. Now, as I was waiting for my provider to send the activation SMS, I set up the Bold to connect to my home WiFi network, then browsed the net. All worked fine and dandy with no issues at all and I was able to browse the internet perfectly.

Now though, as the phone has been activated and I can use the GPRS/3G, when I select the browser, I access theinternet via GPRS/3G and I don't want to do this when I am at home. When I am here, if I want to access the net I want the Bold to use the home WiFi connection as a priority and NOT the GPRS/3G connection.

Is there a way I can set the priority of internet connectivity so that the order is:

#1 - WiFi (if available)
#2 - 3G

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Old 04-15-2009, 04:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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scan for your routers connection and connect
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Have a read of this post and see if it helps you in anyway BlackBerry Browser vs. Internet Browser
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if your wi-fi is connected and shows as a white wi-fi symbol, and you open the broswer. it should automatically use wi-fi.
to make sure of this i believe you need to go to broswer-menu-options-browser options (settings/configuration, i forget the name) and make sure default broswer is internet browser.
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Have a read of this post and see if it helps you in anyway
Excellent advice there kirrinjones, many thanks for this. Sorted...

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if your wi-fi is connected and shows as a white wi-fi symbol, and you open the broswer. it should automatically use wi-fi.
to make sure of this i believe you need to go to broswer-menu-options-browser options (settings/configuration, i forget the name) and make sure default broswer is internet browser.
This is not the case. To use wifi, you must manually choose the hotspot browser, i know, its stupid, i wish it would use it automatically if available too.

if anyone doubts what im saying, do this simple test. leave it on internet browser, make sure you are on wifi, and browse to www.whatismyip.com on your bb, it will NOT be the ip address that your wifi is on (meaning you cable/dsl/etc provider) but rather some other address, probably that of a rogers proxy.

i proved this by going to www.whatismyip.com on my computer on the same wifi lan, and that did show the proper ip.

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I don't have to manually chose the hotspot broswer.
If my wi-fi is active and I click broswer, it automatically uses wi-fi.
I have my default broswer as "web n walk browser" cause I'm on T-mob UK, but I would presume that the standard of this is either Internet Browser or Blackberry Browser
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I don't have to manually chose the hotspot broswer.
If my wi-fi is active and I click broswer, it automatically uses wi-fi.
I have my default broswer as "web n walk browser" cause I'm on T-mob UK, but I would presume that the standard of this is either Internet Browser or Blackberry Browser
Do what I suggested above, you will see that in reality, it is NOT using your wifi connection.
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I did. The adress is not the same as the PC one, because it is a proxy for BISB. When connected to your home router, it also routes through the Blackberry Infrastructure to allow connection to your BIS.
It is still using the wi-fi connection when it does this as opposed to DATA GPRS/3G/EDGE.
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You could also try a speed test. If on wifi your speed should be significantly higher than if on 3g.

I just did a litle experiment with opera mini. It has a setting to use wifi. First, I connected to my wifi and used the BB browser. It was obviously using the wifi because of the speed. But a check of the ip showed only the BIS ip.

Next I switched to opera mini with the wifi box unchecked in the opera mini settings. It was very slow and showed the ip address as the BIS. Then I checked the wifi box in the opera mini settings and now not only was the loading speed much faster but the ip address shown is the same as that shown for my desktop pc.

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I did. The adress is not the same as the PC one, because it is a proxy for BISB. When connected to your home router, it also routes through the Blackberry Infrastructure to allow connection to your BIS.
It is still using the wi-fi connection when it does this as opposed to DATA GPRS/3G/EDGE.
if that is the case, its pretty dumb, as when forced into hotspot mode, the proper wifi lan IP is displayed. it doesnt make sense for it to be only using wifi for some traffic when in the internet browser mode with wifi, when it looks like it is using it for all traffic when in hotspot mode.
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I think hotspot mode means it will broswe via wi-fi, but the BIS will still be connected via mobile network.
whereas using wi-fi with internet broswer, the BIS is routed via BISB proxy and uses wi-fi for BIS
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set internet browser to default. this will pull wifi if it is there.... and use the network if not
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set internet browser to default. this will pull wifi if it is there.... and use the network if not
even if it is, it isnt using wifi for everything, so its completely pointless. a future firmware should make it switch to hotspot mode on the fly for full wifi usage, not partial. i still have my doubts its even using the wifi at all when not on hotspot browser mode. when wifi is white, it means its connected to a wifi network, doesnt necessarily mean its going to use it.
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You need to go back and re-read and understand Midnightdraven post.

The way it works now, all communications does go over the Wi-Fi when it can. If you use the Hot Spot browser (as used to happen when one could set browser priority) only browsing went over the Wi-Fi.

The reason the IP address is not what you expect is that the Wi-Fi/internet connection is replacing the wireless carrier connection between the Blackberry and RIM.
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You need to go back and re-read and understand Midnightdraven post.

The way it works now, all communications does go over the Wi-Fi when it can. If you use the Hot Spot browser (as used to happen when one could set browser priority) only browsing went over the Wi-Fi.

The reason the IP address is not what you expect is that the Wi-Fi/internet connection is replacing the wireless carrier connection between the Blackberry and RIM.
Exactly. Thanks.
I was suddenly thinking I was either mistaken or not being understood.
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Yah, this particular dead horse is turning up all over the forums.
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You need to go back and re-read and understand Midnightdraven post.

The way it works now, all communications does go over the Wi-Fi when it can. If you use the Hot Spot browser (as used to happen when one could set browser priority) only browsing went over the Wi-Fi.

The reason the IP address is not what you expect is that the Wi-Fi/internet connection is replacing the wireless carrier connection between the Blackberry and RIM.
I did read his post, and I understand it. I think you guys are missing my valid point. When you force hotspot mode, the IP address displayed IS that of the wifi lan, and not that of a rogers proxy. It just doesn't make sense that it wouldn't show that when using the wifi while in internet browser mode.

whatever, im tired of this post too, i keep my bold in hotspot mode at all times anyway.
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It just doesn't make sense that it wouldn't show that when using the wifi while in internet browser mode.
Because in internet browser mode, the wi-fi takes over for BIS, therefore using proxy IP.
In hotspot mode, wi-fi is for only internet, therefore showing your router IP.
because BIS is still connected to mobile network.
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