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Old 08-26-2009, 12:43 PM   #241 (permalink)
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That just wipes the user data from your device. You may want to try wiping it using JL_Cmder and then reloading the OS. JL_Cmder will turn it into a brick and then you can start from scratch.
can I do the same just using desktop manager?
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:49 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Anyone from Rogers try this OS yet? Better than .282?
See Post 195 above.

I may download and install .297 this afternoon, if only not to reinstall Flycast 2.0 which takes up too much space and takes forever, if ever, to start up. I loaded it up through BB App World and and can't get rid of it. It just stays archived on my Bold. Am running an earlier version of Flycast which takes up a third of the space and actually loads fast.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:53 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Where can we get BB Msg 5.0?
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:56 PM   #244 (permalink)
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In order the get VVM installed, you'll need to edit the net_rim_bb_vvm.alx file. Everywhere in the file that has Vendor ID 102, you'll need to change to your Vendor ID. Then you should be able to run apploader.exe and add VVM.
Where is this file?
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:57 PM   #245 (permalink)
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can I do the same just using desktop manager?
No, Desktop Manager does not do a low level wipe. Use either JL_Cmder or BBSAK.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:59 PM   #246 (permalink)
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Where is this file?
Mine is here:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research in Motion\Shared\Loader Files\9000-v4.6.0.297_P4.0.0.243\net_rim_bb_vvm.alx
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Where can we get BB Msg 5.0?
As I'm not sure if it's OK to post links to unreleased software, I can't tell you exactly where, but if you do a Google search I'm sure you'll find it.
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As I'm not sure if it's OK to post links to unreleased software, I can't tell you exactly where, but if you do a Google search I'm sure you'll find it.
Yes you're correct, doing so is a no no, but I didn't realize it had not been released yet. My excitement over this stuff has caused me much confusion.

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In order the get VVM installed, you'll need to edit the net_rim_bb_vvm.alx file. Everywhere in the file that has Vendor ID 102, you'll need to change to your Vendor ID. Then you should be able to run apploader.exe and add VVM.
Well, all I have are 102s and isn't AT&T 102? Or, do I need the phones native vendor id? If so, how do I determine that? So sorry for being such a pest, trying to learn!
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Well, all I have are 102s and isn't AT&T 102? Or, do I need the phones native vendor id? If so, how do I determine that? So sorry for being such a pest, trying to learn!
You can do 1 of 2 things:

1) You can delete all instances that say, _VendorID="102"

2) You can press Alt+Shift+H to see your Vendor ID and then change the vendor ID in the file.
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No, Desktop Manager does not do a low level wipe. Use either JL_Cmder or BBSAK.
Looking up BBSAK, is it really as simple as just clicking "Wipe Device" and then "Factory Reset"?

If so, does this void my 1 year warrenty?
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Looking up BBSAK, is it really as simple as just clicking "Wipe Device" and then "Factory Reset"?

If so, does this void my 1 year warrenty?
You don't need to do the Factory Reset unless your are on a BES and you want to remove the IT Policy. Wipe Device is all you need, and yes it's that easy, no it will not void the warranty.
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Where is this file?
In XP it is located at:
c:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\9000-v4.6.0.297_P4.0.0.243\net_rim_bb_vvm.alx
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You don't need to do the Factory Reset unless your are on a BES and you want to remove the IT Policy. Wipe Device is all you need, and yes it's that easy, no it will not void the warranty.
Great, I will try that tonight.

So once I click "Wipe Device", will it load the OS too? Or is that when it will be bricked? If so, how do I get the OS back on there once the phone is bricked?
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Try replacing the cods in the java folder of the OS and then rerun loader.exe or dm.
still no luck...
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In XP it is located at:
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Great, I will try that tonight.

So once I click "Wipe Device", will it load the OS too? Or is that when it will be bricked? If so, how do I get the OS back on there once the phone is bricked?
Yes, that will brick the device and give you a 507 error. Just connect the device to the pc and run loader.exe to install the OS. Then use DM to restore your backup.
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You can do 1 of 2 things:

1) You can delete all instances that say, _VendorID="102"

2) You can press Alt+Shift+H to see your Vendor ID and then change the vendor ID in the file.
Which do you prefer? Alt+Shift+H told me 179. I replaced the five instances of it, and saved it. Do I need to rerun the loader or can i just push out the vvm use dm?
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still no luck...
When you run app loader in DM what do you see? Is BBM listed as an option. If so uncheck 4.6. run it. replace cods and check BBM before running DM again.
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No USB hub right - direct to the BB. Did you change anything in the java folder?
Stinsonddog, Direct to the Laptop and I even tried on a fresh install on another computer. I tried wiping with JLCommander and now it says Reload Software 507, and even at that it wont load.

I went to the ATT store that my buddy owns, he let me borrow a new Bold till my company replaces mine. I went home and updated the one he gave me and it upgraded without a hitch.

So I have a loaner and now just waiting for my replacement from my company to get here

Thanks for your suggestions,

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