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Old 09-19-2009, 11:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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sorry if this is a dumb question, but is there any rumor or intelligence about any post-bold at&t branded blackberry model that may take advantage of 4g whenever any of that rolls out?

Dallas-Fort Worth area becoming one of the hottest hubs for 4G | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Dallas Business News

Dallas-Fort Worth area becoming one of the hottest hubs for 4G

12:00 AM CDT on Saturday, September 19, 2009
By VICTOR GODINEZ / The Dallas Morning News


The next generation of super-fast wireless networks is being born in the Dallas area.

Cellphone service providers and technology makers including Sprint Nextel Corp., AT&T Inc., MetroPCS Communications Inc., Ericsson AB and Nokia Siemens Networks are converging on the region to launch fourth-generation, or 4G, networks.

The new networks, with data speeds far greater than the 3G networks used by the iPhone 3G and other mobile devices, will let users stream high-definition video to their phones, play complex games online, quickly download large files and perform other Internet tasks currently relegated to home or office connections.

And they already are being set up in the Dallas area.

Sprint, for example, is using a technology called WiMax for its 4G network, and it will go live in the Dallas area as early as next month. Cities such as New York, Houston and San Francisco will have to wait until next year.

Company spokeswoman Crystal Davis said Sprint considers Dallas "a well-respected hub of emerging and innovative technology" where the company's 3G services have been well-received.

Sprint is far from the only telecom company that is using the Dallas area as a launchpad for 4G.

MetroPCS, the Richardson-based prepaid phone provider, will be rolling out a 4G network based on a technology called LTE in the second half of next year, and the nuts and bolts or, rather, phones and cables will come from companies with a significant local presence.

Ericsson, which has its North American headquarters in Plano, will be in charge of the network infrastructure, while Samsung Telecommunications America, whose headquarters are in Richardson, will deliver the first 4G phone for MetroPCS.

There's also a good chance that Dallas could be one of the first markets where MetroPCS activates its 4G network.

"As the Internet goes mobile, we are excited to be at the forefront of this wireless evolution with the building out of our 4G broadband data services," Roger Linquist, the company's president, chief executive officer and chairman, said this week in a prepared statement that announced the Ericsson and Samsung deals.

"We anticipate to begin offering our 4G LTE services and a dual-mode LTE/CDMA smart phone in our major metropolitan markets in late 2010."

One of Ericsson's big competitors to provide 4G network technology to the carriers is Nokia Siemens Networks, which has its North American headquarters in Irving.

Nokia Siemens and Ericsson recently competed in a bankruptcy auction for the LTE assets of Nortel Networks Corp., with Ericsson submitting the winning bid.

In an interview this week, Sue Spradley, head of Nokia Siemens' North American division, said that the Nortel deal was a disappointment but that her company remained committed to 4G.

"We want to continue to expand our LTE experience," she said.

AT&T, the largest telecom company in the Dallas area, also isn't wasting any time with 4G.

The company recently said that its home would be one of the first six cities in the country to get a 3G speed upgrade, with 4G trials starting in 2010.

AT&T spokeswoman Sarah Andreani said the company wasn't ready to announce where it would activate its first LTE-based 4G networks. But she noted that one reason AT&T moved to Dallas last year was the telecom expertise in the area.

"We clearly consider it a top market for us," she said.
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There have not been any rumors of blackberries using 4g. I don't blackberry will take advantage of 4g until far more cities use it. It is not a priority for them yet.
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There have not been any rumors of blackberries using 4g. I don't blackberry will take advantage of 4g until far more cities use it. It is not a priority for them yet.
I disagree. Given the fact that most berries arnt even 3g yet, I'd imagine they will wait for quite some time. And besides, there's nothing with berries on 3g, why up to 4g?
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If you think they will wait for sometime, why did you disagree with me?
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If you think they will wait for sometime, why did you disagree with me?
LOL i was wondering the same thing...
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Wireless 4G plans take wing at Dallas conference | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Personal Technology | Dallas Business News

Wireless 4G plans take wing at Dallas conference

07:41 AM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009
By VICTOR GODINEZ / The Dallas Morning News

The wireless industry gathered Wednesday in Dallas to talk about the next generation of high-speed mobile connectivity and promote a new industry standard.

But the spirit of cooperation went only so far.

Some of the disagreements among the giants couldn't help but leak out, even as telecom experts predicted a magical era a few years down the road with 50 billion mobile devices hooked into a global wireless Web.

The LTE Americas conference, which continues through the rest of this week, focuses on a specific technology being adopted by many wireless companies to build the fourth-generation, or 4G, wireless network.

Much of the 4G technology is being designed or tested in the Dallas area.

LTE is short for long-term evolution and theoretically brings maximum wireless download speeds of 100 megabits per second.

In other words, your cellphone could soon have a faster Internet connection than the broadband modem plugged into your computer at home.

And 4G won't just connect phones, but also cameras, utility meters, medical monitors, earthquake sensors and other machines.

Patrik Ringqvist, vice president of strategic development at telecom equipment maker Ericsson AB, said there could be 50 billion wireless devices in use by 2020, with many of them needing the ultra-fast speeds possible on 4G.

Dallas-based AT&T Inc., Verizon Wireless, Richardson-based MetroPCS Wireless Inc. and others made their case Wednesday on the opening day of the show for why they're making such an aggressive push into 4G.

"It's really a foregone conclusion that 4G will be the game-changer we all hope it can be," said Verizon Wireless chief technical officer Anthony Melone.

"Verizon Wireless has a lot of skin in this game. We're going to be very aggressive in deploying this technology."

Melone said his company will have 4G coverage in 25 to 30 major markets covering more than 100 million people in the U.S. by the end of next year.


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And he couldn't help but get a dig in at rival AT&T, which is moving a bit slower into 4G and focusing initially on upgrading its 3G network.

"Why invest in older technology when something new is right there, ready to be had?" Melone said during his speech.

Kris Rinne, senior vice president of architecture and planning at AT&T, took the podium next.

She said AT&T will begin 4G LTE trials next year but won't push for broader deployment until 2011.

In the meantime, she said, boosting the speed and signal strength of AT&T's 3G network makes sense because 4G phones probably won't be available until 2011.

Most of the 4G devices next year will be laptop cards, not phones.

"That's why we believe our timing is right," she said.

In a lawsuit filed Tuesday, AT&T says Verizon Wireless is presenting misleading ads about the geographic scope of AT&T's wireless network.

Still, there was some agreement reached Wednesday, as AT&T, Verizon and several other wireless companies announced a plan to support a single, standard technology called One Voice for making regular voice calls over 4G.

But while conference participants boasted and tussled over their 4G plans, one company was notably absent.

Sprint Nextel Corp. already has a 4G network up and running in some parts of the country, including Dallas as of this week.

But Sprint's network is built on a different technology called WiMax.

"Sprint continues to lead the charge in rolling out wireless 4G in cities across America, and the momentum continues to build," Todd Rowley, vice president of Sprint 4G, said in a statement Monday.

"Our aggressive expansion of Sprint 4G will include many new devices and capabilities that create increased performance and productivity while enhancing personal lifestyles on the go."

But, again, there are not yet any Sprint 4G phones, just a plug-in laptop adapter targeted mostly to business users.

It's also not clear that the tiny number of companies supporting WiMax can withstand the much larger bundle of LTE supporters.

Some companies are positioning themselves to support whichever technology ultimately wins.

Altair Semiconductor Inc., an Israeli company founded in 2005 by former Texas Instruments Inc. executives, was showing some of its LTE technology at the conference.

But Altair also makes WiMax chips, said Mark Rice, vice president and general manager of the company's Plano office.

He said the Dallas area's longtime telecom expertise ensures that the region will be home for much of the research, development and deployment around 4G.


At the gates

But Rice said that even with the billions of dollars that companies like Verizon and AT&T are poised to spend on 4G, start-ups like Altair still face a tough environment until 4G phones and other devices start shipping in large numbers.

He said Altair closed its latest round of funding just before the economy soured. That topic invariably pops up when meeting with potential customers.

"The first question out of their mouth or it should be is, 'How's your funding? Are you going to make it?' "

Altair is generating revenue and should survive until sales accelerate, Rice said.

Despite the challenge of being stretched from Israel to Plano, it's critical to be in the Dallas area.

"The business always flows where the expertise is, and that's why Dallas is such a great market," Rice said.
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