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Default 09-29-2007, 11:30 AM

how about everyone agree to disagree, or even disagree altogether, and let me be right?


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Default 09-29-2007, 11:35 AM

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how about everyone agree to disagree, or even disagree altogether, and let me be right?


What was the subject?
There's three, I think, maybe four. Or there could be dozens, for all I know. But of course, there is *It*. Could be one of the three or four, or maybe its another. If you happen to respond, but not to *It*, then you are missing the point.


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Default 09-29-2007, 11:44 AM

So back to the 9000 series and OS 5.0... No i Wasbrainwashedtothinkthatthisphoneisthecoolestthin gsincemexicanjumpbeanswasinventedphone
   
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Default 09-29-2007, 12:58 PM

So what of the 9xxx, anyone see any recent pics floating around ?
   
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So what of the 9xxx, anyone see any recent pics floating around ?
Ya know, I'm pretty sure I saw a thread about this already.

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Default Apple Sucks - 09-30-2007, 01:24 PM

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HAHAHA, don't make me laugh. Sure the BB is great, but the interface and features of the iphone blow away anything RIM has now. The only thing BB has on the iphone is the keypad.
I'll tell you what peevees me off about the iPhone -- it's an Apple. First those suckers stiff their most loyal customers by overcharging them by $200 when the phone first came out. Then, after you pay $600, you find that the phone does not really belong to you. If you mess with it in any way, they'll disable your as#.

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I'll throw Maddox in to lighten the mood here on why the iPhone is not so great.

The iPhone is a piece of crap, and so is your face.
Thanks for the post. Good to start the week off with a solid laugh.
   
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Default 10-01-2007, 09:52 AM

re: Maddox, his neighbors need to be warned of his presence.
   
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I'm not sure why anyone would disagree with this sentiment or why so many on this thread are crying blasphemy just because someone suggests that there may be things RIM can learn from the iphone. RIM has the best push email solution and business device in the world currently....that isn't likely to change near term. However they are in the business of selling phones and it would be irresponsible of them to ignore a product that clearly has mass consumer appeal. Aren't all those 17 year olds going to be young business people in a few years?

None of this is meant to suggest that RIM needs to mimic the iphone. I'm only stating what I think should be obvious and what I'm sure RIM is already doing; evaluating competing products and models to see if there are useful aspects that they can utilize to improve their own devices or to improve their sales/market share. Perhaps there is nothing useful at all in the iphone for RIM or their vision of future product offerings......but isn't it foolish of us to think that they are not doing their due diligence on it and other competing products/technologies?

Actually if you ask RIM they are not in the business of selling Cellphone they are a middleware company. At these that what I keep reading.
   
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Default 10-02-2007, 02:52 PM

This thread is still seriously about Apple vs. PC ??? They both have thier +/-.
Everyone just has to accept that.

I would actually like to know anything about the 9xxx series!!
   
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I would actually like to know anything about the 9xxx series!!
Haha, agreed! I wish it will have quad hsdpa/quad gsm/wifi/gps, that would be my dream bb.
   
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Thanks for the post. Good to start the week off with a solid laugh.
I practically pee in my pants every time I watch that. I'm a Mac user, but I'm no fan of the iPhone. I love this guy's energy! I can imaging him pounding furiously on his keyboard as he writes that stuff.
   
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I practically pee in my pants every time I watch that. I'm a Mac user, but I'm no fan of the iPhone. I love this guy's energy! I can imaging him pounding furiously on his keyboard as he writes that stuff.

Okay, let's get back on point. This thread is regarding the 9XXX series. Any news?
   
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Okay, let's get back on point. This thread is regarding the 9XXX series. Any news?


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Default 10-03-2007, 07:28 PM

Yeah, baby! Nothing definite of course, but the highlights so far (all rampant speculation and guess work) are:

600 MHz processor.
US 3G - HSDPA!!
A Backup app that uses the memory card.

I'm just glad the guessing game is finally afoot. Release maybe/probably/possibly some time in 2008. All that's missing is some blurry spy pics from an "unconfirmed source deep within RIM".

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If these images are accurate (not a given, for sure) I'd be interested in hearing from those who were adamant that RIM could learn nothing from the iphone and even if they could would certainly never produce such a device.
   
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If these images are accurate (not a given, for sure)
I think as BlackBerry fans and as ordinary people who will have to use the internet for information-finding for decades to come, we need to ratchet up our critical thinking skills just a smidgen.

We're taking a visual pun, almost cartoonish in its construction, and treating it like the revealed word of God or at least a clever hoax. The image in the BGR post is the punchline, folks.

If we don't stop taking everything so literally, anything interesting or humorous on the internet will simply cease because we'll read it as fact and its creators will get sick of correcting all the mouthpieces who repeat it.
   
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I think as BlackBerry fans and as ordinary people who will have to use the internet for information-finding for decades to come, we need to ratchet up our critical thinking skills just a smidgen.

We're taking a visual pun, almost cartoonish in its construction, and treating it like the revealed word of God or at least a clever hoax. The image in the BGR post is the punchline, folks.

If we don't stop taking everything so literally, anything interesting or humorous on the internet will simply cease because we'll read it as fact and its creators will get sick of correcting all the mouthpieces who repeat it.

Preachy, condescending post aside, I agree with you...it looks like a photoshopped 8300. For what it's worth, BGR does go on to report that RIM is working on a touchscreen consumer device.
   
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ok guys. AGAIN THAT IS NOT THE 9000 SERIES. IT WAS MOCK UP MADE FOR THE NEWS THREAD......

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Default 10-04-2007, 02:15 PM

Those images are perfectly accurate. Here's mine in hand! Yup...completely real..
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Those images are perfectly accurate. Here's mine in hand! Yup...completely real..
Nice its so real.....







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Default 10-04-2007, 02:20 PM

I'm just waiting for my PMs to fill up with the "OMG WTF WHAT'S IT LIKE!!!111ONE"


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Those images are perfectly accurate. Here's mine in hand! Yup...completely real..
LOL!, nicely done, but at least try to get the left bottom and right bottom of the screen evenly aligned. :D I definitely give you points for trying tho.
   
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20mins only lends itself to so much quality


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Default 10-04-2007, 03:10 PM

^^eh, i'm guessing NOT saying, only guessing you used some photoshopin' trickery there bud--JUST THINKING MAYBE.

What say you?

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Those images are perfectly accurate. Here's mine in hand! Yup...completely real..

WAIT A MINUTE.

WAIT JUST ONE F**KING MINUTE!

























































How can we be sure that's your hand?


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^^eh, i'm guessing NOT saying, only guessing you used some photoshopin' trickery there bud--JUST THINKING MAYBE.

What say you?

10k!
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What I meant to say is that RIM from a business stand point has to evolve ...
I just checked - you can no longer buy a 7290, or any of the earlier models - so, umm, I think they have been evolving, and will continue to do so!


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Funny, many considered the Mac to be a toy as well. Those of us who know, however know it as a far superior platform to Windows. I'm glad you and your fellow dinosaurs aren't running RIM. Otherwise it would be out of business or bought up within 5 years.
Funny, if the iPhone manages to make the same market share inroads against RIM that the Mac has made against Windows, I don't think RIM should worry a lot. Maybe a valid comparison though, I think the iPhone will settle into the same small market niche that the Mac has occupied since its inception.

As for "far superior platform to Windows," I think you need to revisit the definitions of "facts" vs. "opinions" as that rash statement is clearly ONLY the latter, not the former. And, "narrow minded" does not equate to "disagrees with you" while we're at it.


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Default 10-04-2007, 06:32 PM

As for "far superior platform to Windows," I think you need to revisit the definitions of "facts" vs. "opinions" as that rash statement is clearly ONLY the latter, not the former

This is pretty much the opinion of most who write about computers. Most concede Mac OS is better, but Windows is better marketed and entrenched. Hell, even John C Dvorak, who hated Macs for years and conceded and now owns one.

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Default 10-04-2007, 10:04 PM

This thread is ridiculously stupid...you guys give the photoshoppers of the world a reason to live.

and also the comparison between macs vs. windows is not valid for 2 reasons, in the pc world MS rules the world, in the pda world RIM does not dominate, and the pda market is tiny in the world cell phone market. Also in the computer world, MS does not make computers they are as they are in the pda world a software company, Apple is mainly a hardware company that uses their own OS, much different.
And I'm with Argonne but everyone has different opinions, nothing wrong with that. Its really a good thing.


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I'll tell you what peevees me off about the iPhone -- it's an Apple. First those suckers stiff their most loyal customers by overcharging them by $200 when the phone first came out. Then, after you pay $600, you find that the phone does not really belong to you. If you mess with it in any way, they'll disable your as#.

Nice!
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

#1 Blackberry prices drop ALL the time. The 8700 I bought last year dropped in price numerous times over the course of the year. Besides, there is no such thing as overcharging. If a user thought a phone is worth $600 and they were not forced to buy the phone, then they really have nothing to complain about.

2. The Phone DOES belong to you. If you want to run it over with your car and flush it down a toilet, thats up to you. Just don't expect apple to pay to fix it.
If I were to install a 3rd party firmware hack on my Blackberry in hopes that it will unlock my phone or give me some other nifty feature, I don't think I'd have much luck getting it fixed by RIM. What if Verizon 8800 users decided to try to hack the firmware to enable the GPS, would they be entitled to a refund? Is it any less their phone?

Apple didn't disable anyone's iphone. People installed 3rd party shitty untested software, ruined the phone's firmware, and then are crying that apple doesn't spent thousands trying to decypher what every jackass programmer out there might have done.
   
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This thread is ridiculously stupid...you guys give the photoshoppers of the world a reason to live.

and also the comparison between macs vs. windows is not valid for 2 reasons, in the pc world MS rules the world, in the pda world RIM does not dominate, and the pda market is tiny in the world cell phone market. Also in the computer world, MS does not make computers they are as they are in the pda world a software company, Apple is mainly a hardware company that uses their own OS, much different.
And I'm with Argonne but everyone has different opinions, nothing wrong with that. Its really a good thing.

So many worlds....so confused, why dont we start a time vs space argument while we're at it?
   
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That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

#1 Blackberry prices drop ALL the time.

2. The Phone DOES belong to you.
Think the point they were trying to make is the price dropped like two weeks after release, not over a year, everything drops in price evently, quite an unvalid point.
The belonging argument is a lot to do with how little you can add/change on the device. Cant change the ring tone? oh, now you are going to let people change it, but only with a ring tone that is brought from Apple? But at the same time, to complain about feature that were known, the question is, why would you buy it if you dont like it?
   
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Default 10-05-2007, 12:56 PM

yo man, if the 9xxx does indeed look like that, it'll make the iphone extinct.

it looks better than an iphone.

the OS is probably going to be insane on this device. who's taking pre-orders ? i want one.

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As for "far superior platform to Windows," I think you need to revisit the definitions of "facts" vs. "opinions" as that rash statement is clearly ONLY the latter, not the former

This is pretty much the opinion of most who write about computers. Most concede Mac OS is better, but Windows is better marketed and entrenched. Hell, even John C Dvorak, who hated Macs for years and conceded and now owns one.
Dvorak is a raving moron - this does nothing to further your point.
   
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Dvorak is a raving moron - this does nothing to further your point.
That's your opinion, but like him or not he has been writing about computers and technology for 20+ years and knows what he's talking about.
   
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Well that certainly qualifies him to an opinion like the rest of us...
   
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