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mlevergood 11-26-2008 12:08 AM

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Coming from a pearl to the storm...what..if any...is the lowest available memory we should reserve so our sms, emails and phone logs won't be deleted?

BigA 11-26-2008 12:24 AM

How do I free up memory on my device? - BlackBerryFAQ

mlevergood 11-26-2008 02:22 AM

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Bump.
That is not what I'm asking. Anybody else that can help?

zerog46 11-26-2008 02:25 AM

I would think it would be the same all around. I wouldn't go under 12 to 15 MB. I have the Curve and with the Storm having more memory I don't think you will have much of a problem unless you realy overload the BB with apps. I have not lost any info on my Curve yet.

mlevergood 11-26-2008 02:29 AM

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Awesome! I was always looking for room on my pearl and I new the storm had more memory so.... Yay!

Thanks for your help

TroyDBrown 11-26-2008 02:33 AM

My limit is 13MB

jseah 11-26-2008 09:15 AM

The Storm comes with 128 MB. Taking into account the OS, you should see around 40 MB free after a battery pull. In the week I've had it, I've seen that number drop as low as 30 MB with regular use. Seems like the 4.7 OS is quite a bit bigger than 4.5, because the 8330 Curve came with 96 MB and with 4.5, you have about the same free memory as the Storm.

wibbly 11-26-2008 09:33 AM

'Free' memory is memory not being used for anything of any use. Having loads of free memory is only good in case it has to be used. I don't think the BB starts trashing messages until the free memory is close to zero and the BB needs more.

But almost everything you do (installing apps, running apps, saved emails, maps cached from applications like Google Maps and browser caches) all eat into the available free memory. With some apps it's possible to force them free up memory by deleting the caches they build up (like Google maps, and the BB browser). Having the free memory fall to a few MB is ok in itself - the key is understanding if anything is then going to need more than is available.

Also note that memory no longer needed by an application or the OS isn't freed and doesn't show in the free memory count until the OS performs what's called "garbage collection" (GC). You can't control when GC takes place, and if the OS doesn't NEED to find more free memory, it may wait hours before doing it in background. This is by design and the way memory management works in the BB.

Bottom line is don't worry too much. Look at *average* free memory. Look for that average falling all the time AND tending to towards zero (that may indicate a "memory leak" bug in the OS or an application you're running). Otherwise expect it to fall after a reboot as your apps cache more data, and more slowly as you store more emails and other stuff.

Rebooting normally purges all the cached data, but it's pointless rebooting just for that reason (and to show the free memory before any caching takes place) as all those apps start caching all over again as soon as you use them! Rebooting helps restore function if there's a bug somewhere that ulimately screws things up enough to affect your BB's operation.

mlevergood 11-26-2008 09:36 AM

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Does anybody think RIM took care of mem loss issue? I'm hoping they've read our posts about losing our phone logs and emails...

rachamphetamine 11-26-2008 09:56 AM

I doubt it. While annoying, that's a mechanism in place to keep the phone functioning and able to receive new messages. As long as you remember to delete items now and then, it shouldn't be a problem.

mlevergood 11-26-2008 10:03 AM

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I guess I should be happy that I have three more apps on my storm than I did on my pearl...


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