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Old 03-06-2009, 04:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Many of you have asked questions regarding "tethering" your Blackberry to your laptop in order to surf the internet. Apparently there is an application available that makes it quite easy on with a Blackberry phone. The link is posted below. If any of you try it, let us know your experience!

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On a corporate level we use the verizon enterprise connection manager. It works really well for tethering. If this works well I would be interested in knowing. I will defiantly be keeping an eye on this thread.
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On a corporate level we use the verizon enterprise connection manager. It works really well for tethering. If this works well I would be interested in knowing. I will defiantly be keeping an eye on this thread.
I don't use it but I'm sure it works, problem is using it will violate Verizon's terms of service and I'm sure "on a corporate level" that would be a problem.
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This is an excellent application. When you use this app it uses the phone as a network connection not a dialup connection. This means no charges from Verizon because it thinks you are surfing the net from the device.
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This is an excellent application. When you use this app it uses the phone as a network connection not a dialup connection. This means no charges from Verizon because it thinks you are surfing the net from the device.
Data usage is data usage, doesn't matter what type of connection is set up on the computer, Verizon can't tell when you have a dial up connection set up on your computer. What they can see is the amount of data usage and it isn't hard to figure out based on data usage your are tethering since it is just about impossible to download the same amount of data on a phone that you do with a computer. Of course most people tethering without paying don't get caught but that doesn't change the fact that they can be.
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therryberry kicks butt! Takes no time to set up.
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But what part about "unlimited data plan" isn't "unlimited"?
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But what part about "unlimited data plan" isn't "unlimited"?
On ATT, "unlimited" means 5gb/month. Read the fine print. Go over 5gb in a month, ATT can cancel your account or charge you an arm and a leg. There are plenty of horror stories around where people received bills of thousands and tens of thousands of dollars in a single month.
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I'm getting 1617 kb/s down and 339 kb/s up using the old fashioned method (see Tethering Using 3g on AT&T) on my Bold on the ATT network.

How much faster, if any, would TetherBerry be?

How can TetherBerry claim to be faster?

What could TetherBerry be doing that is different?

What does TetherBerry have that's worth $40?
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Gray..,

I have no idea. I just ran across the app and put it out there.

I am not a fan of tethering. I have a wireless card for my laptop and would never tether simply because the technology is not where it needs to be for my business applications. I need stable, uncomplicated web access.

I use my phone as a phone. I pay $60 monthly for unlimited aircard internet access and it never lets me down.
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What this software seems to do is use your Blackberry data plan (mine is unlimited) to surf the web. I also have VZ Access Manager from Verizon for $15 a month which lets me tether my computer to the Blackberry and get online. That is also unlimited access (with certain restrictions, such as that you are not using it as a web server). I've used multi-GB in a month and had no issues.
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I own a Curve 8330. I have the $30 data plan unllimited. What will verizon charge me if i start tethering? Another $30 or is it $15?

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I own a Curve 8330. I have the $30 data plan unllimited. What will verizon charge me if i start tethering? Another $30 or is it $15?

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If you do things legitimately (which I highly suggest), you will be charged an additonal $15/mo. to tether.
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Thanks dc/dc.

Ok..now what do i need to do differently to do this legitimately? Sorry if this is a stupid ?. Just very new to the tethering process.
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Ok..now what do i need to do differently to do this legitimately? Sorry if this is a stupid ?. Just very new to the tethering process.
You need to add the tethering add-on package to your Verizon plan, and then download the Verizon Connection Manager software to your computer.
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good deal. Thanks again!!!
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You're welcome. I'm happy to help.
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I use tethering all day every day at work to provide Internet access for my personal laptop ('cause I'm in a secure building with a restrictive network - and they don't care, as long as I don't connect my laptop to the internal network).

I used to have a Razr and an aircard (EVDO Rev 0 - not Rev A). Then I got a Blackberry Pearl (which is, of course, Rev 0) and ditched the aircard - starting using the Pearl tethered. Then I got a Storm (which is Rev A) and continued tethering. I dumped my Verizon tethering and started using TetherBerry approximately 6 weeks ago. Been with Verizon through it all.

I used to have a BIS account, which was $30/month, and tethering was an extra $15/month. Then I upgraded to a BES, so my bill went up to $45/month, still with an extra $15/month for tethering. Now, I'm still on a BES (hosted Exchange through MailStreet.com), but I just dropped the $15/month for tethering.

At no time has tethering via my phone ever been less reliable than using an aircard. The only difference is, for the extra $45/month of having an aircard, I could be on the Internet and talk on the phone at the same time. When I changed from an aircard to just a Blackberry, it was a conscious decision to accept that limitation in exchange for the reduced cost. I have not regretted that choice at all. And, when I need short periods of Internet access, tethering via Bluetooth is definitely more convenient than digging out an aircard and sticking it in the laptop (but TetherBerry doesn't support Bluetooth yet, so I can no longer do that).

I benchmarked Verizon tethering (which uses Dial-Up Networking, so your computer sees your Blackberry as a dial-up modem) against TetherBerry tethering (which makes your phone into a USB Ethernet adapter from your computer's point of view). I used the Speakeasy.net Speedtest and ran against servers in San Francisco and Atlanta. I did multiple each way, alternating between connection methods.

Tethering via TetherBerry was consistently slower than tethering using VZW's dial-up option. TB gave 700 - 900 Kpbs downloads and VZW gave 1500 - 1600 Kbps downloads.

But, TB does have one significant advantage (besides being cheaper in the long-term). With TB, your phone is just sharing its data connection. It never enters modem mode. With VZW, the phone goes into modem mode and, while in modem mode, it does not maintain its own data connection. So, with VZW, while tethered, emails received do not show up on your phone until you disconnect (i.e. end the tethering session). When you disconnect, the BB then downloads all the queued messages at once.

With TB tethering, the BB has its data connection the whole time. So, I normally see email show up on my BB and in my Outlook Inbox within seconds of each other (usually on the BB first). That, by itself, it not a HUGE deal. But, in combination with a couple of BB/VZW bugs, it becomes a big deal.

There are two problems with VZW tethering:

1) If you stay tethered for too long (it seems to be somewhere around the hour mark), when you disconnect, the BB will have dropped its data connection and will not recover it for anywhere from 5 minutes to (I've had it take) 45 minutes. Usually, you can get it to reconnect by going into Manage Connections and turning off the radio, then turning it back on, but this doesn't always get it going. Or, you can do a battery pull.

2) If you send emails from Outlook while tethered (at least, if you're on a BES), the sent messages end up showing up on the BB as received messages (not sent), but saying they're from you. After a few phone chats with MailStreet Tech Support, they determined that it was a known bug at RIM, and was supposed to be corrected in some upcoming release of the BES software. It may, in fact, be fixed now. I don't know.

Another "good thing" about TB using the phone's data connection (instead of modem mode) is that you can do (or re-do) an Enterprise Activation through it, which I don't think you can in modem mode.

Normally, if you upgrade your BB OS (and you're on a BES), there's two ways to re-activate on the BES after the upgrade. One, you get your BES admin to reset your BES password, then you do an OTA activation. That works fine, but it requires cooperation from your admin. Or, two, you upgrade your BB OS, then you connect it to your computer, where you have the Desktop Manager running and connected to your BES and it will do the activation without requiring a BES password reset.

As far as I know, the BB cannot do an enterprise activation while it's in modem mode ('cause it won't connect to the Desktop Manager). So, if you only have Internet access via VZW (i.e. dial-up) tethering, you cannot do a BB OS upgrade and re-activate on the BES without admin help.

OTOH, if you do an OS upgrade, then run TetherBerry and connect your phone to your computer, the BB Desktop Manager can then connect to your BES (via the Internet connection through the tethered phone), and then your phone can re-activate on the BES - essentially, going from the phone, through the computer, back out of the computer through the phone (via TetherBerry), and on to the BES. I used this method to re-activate last week, after I upgraded to Storm OS .122, and it worked fine. It was very nice because I didn't have to call MailStreet to get an admin to reset my BES password, and I didn't have to wait until I was somewhere where I could get my laptop onto a regular Internet connection.

Finally, calling VZW's plan an "Unlimited" plan and then expecting it to be truly unlimited is ridiculous and naive. You are renting bandwidth from them. Like anything else, the actual contract can specify whatever restrictions the vendor wants to, in terms of usage. If you don't like the restrictions, you don't have to enter the contract.

In this particular case, VZW's Terms of Service for the Unlimited BB Data Plan specifically say that using the BB tethered in any way to a computer is forbidden. Further, they also say that, if you exceed 5 GB of data transfer in a month, they have the right to restrict your service (i.e. I believe they can set your account to get slower speeds on data transfers).

So, using TetherBerry without also paying Verizon their extra monthly fee for tethering is, inarguably, a violation of the Terms of Service. Sorry. Lump it.

That said, numerous people on the TetherBerry forums reported that they called Verizon to ask about using TetherBerry and were told that Verizon doesn't care. Which just means (to me), they haven't noticed the TetherBerry sting in their wallet area yet. So, TB is a money-saver for now, but don't expect it to always be. I figure if it keeps working for me for another 6 weeks, I'll break even on what it cost me. After that, it's free money.
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You need to ... download the Verizon Connection Manager software to your computer.
This is incorrect. All you NEED is to have the Blackberry Device Manager installed. That gets installed when you install the Desktop Manager, so do that.

Once you have that, you can use the Wizard Dial-Up Networking to create a dial-up connection that uses your BB as a modem. Initiate that connection and you'll be connected to the Internet via VZW dial-up tethering.

Search for earlier posts from me if you need details on setting up the DUN connection parameters.

The last several times I re-installed Windows from scratch, I never installed any VZW software at all - just the BB DM, and re-setup VZW tethering this way and it worked fine.
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