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Default 10-30-2009, 09:34 AM

Yes, I had the exact same experience with the Youmail app.

I met one of the Pandora engineer techies back in May and he explained to me basically what caused that, and, quite honestly, it was over my head, but basically boils down to the fact that the RIM APIs only allow third party apps to access the data channels on the BlackBerry in a different manner than "RIM authorized apps (like Facebook, Yahoo Messenger, etc)".

For example, Facebook uses your actual BIS stream for data. Youmail does not, and even if you tell it to do so and when it tries, it will fail the operation and drop the signal from EDGE to edge.

A couple third party apps that worked for me were BBWeather, BerryWeather, and the SocialScope beta.
   
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Default 10-30-2009, 10:55 AM

I just unlocked my storm and put in my AT&T SIM. It's working so far, I am getting my BES emails, my FaceBook app is working, but my personal email is not. I followed the instructions and am stuck at step 4. I am on the Backup/Restore screen, I hit Advanced, I went File/Open, grabbed the AT&T service books, it's now in the list on the left, but it is grayed out, when I click it to highlight it, the >> to move the installed apps is grayed out, I tried clicking on it anyway, but it is not letting me add this.

Am I missing a step somewhere?

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Default 10-30-2009, 11:03 AM

Another question about step 7. Do I have to create an account for BIS to resend the service books? I'm the BES admin at my work, can I use the BES to resend the service books?


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Default 10-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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I just unlocked my storm and put in my AT&T SIM. It's working so far, I am getting my BES emails, my FaceBook app is working, but my personal email is not. I followed the instructions and am stuck at step 4. I am on the Backup/Restore screen, I hit Advanced, I went File/Open, grabbed the AT&T service books, it's now in the list on the left, but it is grayed out, when I click it to highlight it, the >> to move the installed apps is grayed out, I tried clicking on it anyway, but it is not letting me add this.
If the BlackBerry smartphone is associated with a BES , and the user account associated with the BlackBerry is set for automatic wireless backup, the right arrow button (>>) will be unavailable while attempting to manually restore most databases. To restore these databases manually, complete the following steps:
  1. Delete the Desktop [SYNC] service book from the BlackBerry smartphone by completing the following steps:
    1. On the Home screen of the BlackBerry smartphone, click Options > Advanced Options > Service Book.
    2. Highlight Desktop [SYNC], display the menu and click Delete.
  2. Connect the BlackBerry smartphone to the computer.
  3. Restore the databases using the steps to restore specific databases in the backup file to a BlackBerry smartphone listed above.
  4. When the database or databases are restored, click Options > Advanced Options > Service Book on the BlackBerry smartphone.
  5. Display the menu and click Undelete. The Desktop [SYNC] service book is restored.
   
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Default 10-30-2009, 11:30 AM

Thanks JSanders! That worked like a champ! What about the service books now? Do I need to create a BIS account or can I just resend them from my BES?

Thanks again, your help and expertise has been most appreciated!


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Default 10-30-2009, 01:20 PM

Well, I still must be missing something. My personal email account is set up but won't send, it just throws a red x when I try. It also won't receive. The app for configuring personal email isn't there any longer.

I also now have an icon for Yahoo mail with someone else's email address. I'm assuming it's from whomever exported out the AT&T service books, but I can't seem to be able to delete it.


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Default 10-30-2009, 01:28 PM

OK, got my email working, I went to http://www.blackberry.com/integrate (found that when trying to get my Gmail to work) and it helped me get my email working.

Still have this other person's Yahoo account that I'd like to delete...


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Default 10-30-2009, 02:03 PM

H, I don't know how you got the other Yahoo address in there, it's not in the generic service books you downloaded here.

Delete it from you device by going to Options > Advanced > Service Books and scroll to the yahoo email address for the stranger and delete it.
   
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Does anyone know how I can register my 9530 on T-Mobile's website? Do I use the DEC or HEX version of the MEID? I tried both, it wont take either, can someone help?


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You don't have an IMEI?
   
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Default 11-01-2009, 11:59 PM

I found it. But it still wont let me register. The guy I bought it from said that it was unlocked. How can I verify that it has? Because it wont let me register or my number does not show up.

EDIT: Sorry again guys, rookie move. I just had to wait 5 minutes and it registered.


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Default 11-02-2009, 12:14 AM

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I found it. But it still wont let me register. The guy I bought it from said that it was unlocked. How can I verify that it has? Because it wont let me register or my number does not show up.
How do I determine if my BlackBerry is "unlocked"? - BlackBerryFAQ

Give it some time... It can take 3-4 tries to register at times.

I don't know what you mean "number does not show up".
   
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Default 11-03-2009, 02:15 PM

JSanders, The YouMail app started working for me, not sure why.

I seem to be having an issue with keeping an EDGE signal. It bounces back and forth between EDGE and edge for no apparent reason. I did follow the suggestion in the first post and set my connection to 2G only and cycled my wireless network on and off several times and it still won't stay on EDGE. Any thoughts?
   
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Default 11-04-2009, 10:38 PM

Hey all I know I'm new but thought I'd just jump in!

From my experience all the OS except .148/90 give TMobile users EDGE issues.

I upgraded to .323 (it's great btw) and decided to just adjust my APN if needed to use a 3rd party app. That is the only instance I have found that I would need it, for Pandora for example. Other than that, I leave it blank and unchecked.

I wrote a whole post on the blog in my signature about it.

Hope it helps someone!


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JSanders, The YouMail app started working for me, not sure why.

I seem to be having an issue with keeping an EDGE signal. It bounces back and forth between EDGE and edge for no apparent reason. I did follow the suggestion in the first post and set my connection to 2G only and cycled my wireless network on and off several times and it still won't stay on EDGE. Any thoughts?
podone, the EDGE to edge signal is bouncing because you have YouMail running, in my opinion.
   
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Default Newbie - 11-05-2009, 01:32 PM

Hi,

Can you tell me if this will work on UK carriers?

My Storm 9500 was on Vodafone UK and I wish to use it on T-Mobile UK.

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Default 11-06-2009, 05:17 PM

You may not need to do this moving it from Vodafone to Tmobile, for the 9500.

You'll know if you get the browser or not. If you don't come back and go through this.
   
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Default Newbie - 11-08-2009, 07:07 PM

Thanks for that JSanders, your guide brings up the browser etc but the service books are for the US and it won't let me connect, referring me to my service provider. Try as I might, I cannot get UK tmobile service books for the Storm anywhere...

Is there anything else you can suggest? are there any generic service books out there?

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Default no browser app at all - 11-09-2009, 03:39 AM

hi, i saw your instructions and i don't think i could follow it because:

1. can't register on BIS because there isn't a browser on my storm 9550 (i tried registering on my computer, but it says that i have to do it through my phone)

2. the part where u said that we have to create an ATT folder... i can't find a "share d" folder in the common files/research in motion directiory.

Please advise.. thank you.

I'm using AT&T right now...
   
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Default 11-09-2009, 10:09 AM

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Try as I might, I cannot get UK tmobile service books for the Storm anywhere...

Is there anything else you can suggest? are there any generic service books out there?
There are no "service books for the Storm" from TmobileUK, since they don't carry the device (just like TmobileUS and ATT do not). You just need the generic service books from TmobileUK.

If you have another BlackBerry on TmobileUS, do a backup of the device, via the Backup > Advanced function in Desktop Manager. Backup ONLY the Service Books.

Then save that backup IPD file somewhere in a specific folder on your PC, so you can return to it in the instruction in this thread where it states to use DM to load the ATT service (you will instead use those for your Tmobile provider you have saved).
   
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1. can't register on BIS because there isn't a browser on my storm 9550 (i tried registering on my computer, but it says that i have to do it through my phone)
You won't be able to register on your phone with ATT until you get through these steps.

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2. the part where u said that we have to create an ATT folder... i can't find a "share d" folder in the common files/research in motion directiory.
Then you have not installed the OS to your PC. Doing so will create the "shared" folder.
   
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podone, the EDGE to edge signal is bouncing because you have YouMail running, in my opinion.
I think that you are right. I think that Social Scope was having an adverse effect as that had automatic refresh in the settings. Once I disabled SS, my EDGE signal has become much more stable.

As an aside with the YouMail app, I set it to check for new messages every 75 minutes and have YouMail send me an email when I have a new VM. The app must monitor the email, b/c my app alerts me to a new message almost instantaneously after I receive an email. Kinda cool!
   
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where is the sticky notes?
Scroll to the TOP of this page, and click on the link "General 9500 Series Discussion", top of that page, you'll see the Sticky Note Threads for this 9500 section.
   
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Default help needed - 11-11-2009, 01:25 PM

hi,

i followed all the instructions closely and it worked up to the point when i turn on the mobile network (GSM/UMTS). All the browser icons disappear before i could register the phone on BIS.

pls advise

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i followed all the instructions closely and it worked up to the point when i turn on the mobile network (GSM/UMTS). All the browser icons disappear
Me too. Getting really frustrating. I want to throw a cinderblock through Verizon's window.
   
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Me too. Getting really frustrating. I want to throw a cinderblock through Verizon's window.
lol, considering the 9530/9550 devices were not designed to work on ATT, that wouldn't be very bright. :(
   
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i followed all the instructions closely and it worked up to the point when i turn on the mobile network (GSM/UMTS). All the browser icons disappear before i could register the phone on BIS.
Follow the directions in the tutorial and register the device/send service books ON the PC. A link is provided in step #7.

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Default 11-11-2009, 09:58 PM

I have a 9530 and a 9550 for development testing. I got the 9530 on 4.7 working on ATT in the past using the instructions here, but now that 5.0 is out, neither the 9530 or 9550 are working for me using the same instructions.

Has anybody successfully gotten a 9530 or 9550 working with ATT and full browser functionality?
   
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Default 11-11-2009, 10:03 PM

Yes, I have used the exact same process on the 9530, with OS 5.0.0.323 and .328 to work, as well as the 9550.

It will work.
   
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Wow! I never though I would get it to work, but I was inspired by success stories so I tried again. the only think different is that this time, I had a few beers in me… and it worked! I now have a 9550 on att with browser functionality. Go figure.
   
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Not a quick process, eh?

Amazing with beer and patience can do.
   
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I have the storm 2 (9550) fully working on att. I used a different method of unlocking. I can provide the PDF file for those that can't get this to work the first time...(send me a message)

My only question is, when the phone runs out of battery, or the battery is pulled out - the att service books are reduced from 31 to 14, and the browser is unavailable. all the other data (email, mms, sms, pandora, etc..) still work, just no browser until i resync w/ dm and reinsert all service books. Is there any way around that, so when the battery dies, or is pulled out the service books are still available?
   
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Default help needed - 11-12-2009, 01:42 AM

i cant even register on the link (step 7) u gave me.. it returns an error message when i "create a new account"... says "your account is not accessible by HTML browser. please use your device and try again".

now, the browser disappears before i could even register it on my phone. Please tell me how i could register on a PC.

i even called at&t to send me the service books, but same end result: browser disappears.
   
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roygunaw, did you already perform the step to load the generic service books via Desktop Manager?
   
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I have the storm 2 (9550) fully working on att. I used a different method of unlocking. I can provide the PDF file for those that can't get this to work the first time...(send me a message)

My only question is, when the phone runs out of battery, or the battery is pulled out - the att service books are reduced from 31 to 14, and the browser is unavailable. all the other data (email, mms, sms, pandora, etc..) still work, just no browser until i resync w/ dm and reinsert all service books. Is there any way around that, so when the battery dies, or is pulled out the service books are still available?
I would need to look at your instructions to see what you might have left out.
   
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Default help needed - 11-12-2009, 04:59 PM

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roygunaw, did you already perform the step to load the generic service books via Desktop Manager?
yep, i already did.. do u mean that i would be able to create a new account on the BIS website through PC if i have the service books synced from DM?
   
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Default Thanks! - 11-12-2009, 10:45 PM

Ok got the EDGE to stay on. Only problem is when running youtube or pandora ect the EDGE goes back down to edge. But other than that EDGE is up 24/7 until i use those programs.....


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Default 11-12-2009, 11:15 PM

rockstar, scroll up and read. It won't work.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ml#post1497700

Almost ANY streaming media app kills it. It has to do with the TCP data those apps use rather the BIS.
   
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yep, i already did.. do u mean that i would be able to create a new account on the BIS website through PC if i have the service books synced from DM?
roy, you don't need to create a new BIS account, if you already have one. After load the service books from DM, you must THEN send them again from the BIS login. Just as the instructions detail.
   
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