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akosnitzky 06-18-2009 07:15 AM

Where is the media card slot?

CT-Mike 06-18-2009 10:22 AM

The wife is eligible for an upgrade on 8/11. I plan to get the Tour on her upgrade, then change it over to my number as she doesn't want or need a BB. Waiting an extra month will give me time to read all of your reviews, likes/dislikes, etc.

michael12005 06-18-2009 01:39 PM

What does this Blackberry have that the 8860 does not, besides a camera? I mean, why bother?

lostman72 06-18-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by michael12005 (Post 1409227)
What does this Blackberry have that the 8860 does not, besides a camera? I mean, why bother?

The 8860? is that a Verizon model? or were is it from? I don't recall a 8860? Also the new models will have a faster chip set. Old phones will be slower. Again can you give me info on the 8860.

akosnitzky 06-18-2009 02:19 PM

Yeah. I posted the same question? Do you mean 8830? If so, there is a big difference in memory. It is a narrower phone. If you only e-mail, then keep your 8830

akosnitzky 06-18-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CT-Mike (Post 1409080)
The wife is eligible for an upgrade on 8/11. I plan to get the Tour on her upgrade, then change it over to my number as she doesn't want or need a BB. Waiting an extra month will give me time to read all of your reviews, likes/dislikes, etc.

Lets see the date. You may still be waiting for the phone after the upgrade date

juwaack68 06-18-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by michael12005 (Post 1409227)
What does this Blackberry have that the 8860 does not, besides a camera? I mean, why bother?

I'll assume you meant the 8830. From this comparison, the Tour has the camera and video capabilities, as well as other nice stuff like talk/standby battery time, and the standard 3.5mm headset jack.

Along with other smaller differences in size, weight, etc.

SteveO86 06-18-2009 08:19 PM

The 9630 is smaller, camera/video camera.

9630 also has 256 MB of memory where the 8830 had 48, huge difference right there..
9630 processor is also twice as fast, with a separate processor for the radio.

juwaack68 06-18-2009 08:24 PM

And the best part? I've already been approved to get one for work :-)

ffejie 06-18-2009 08:49 PM

The 8830 is woefully underpowered for today's applications. I get a lot of email and the 48MB is gone very quickly. As a result, the whole phone is slooooow. I'm not trying to do anything fancy here, just dismiss a few reminders and check a few web pages and the thing can crawl to a standstill.

Nicer screen, BB OS 4.7, it's a big step in the right direction.

akosnitzky 06-18-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveO86 (Post 1409483)
The 9630 is smaller, camera/video camera.

9630 also has 256 MB of memory where the 8830 had 48, huge difference right there..
9630 processor is also twice as fast, with a separate processor for the radio.

Separate processor for the radio. What is the significance of that?

akosnitzky 06-18-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ffejie (Post 1409512)
The 8830 is woefully underpowered for today's applications. I get a lot of email and the 48MB is gone very quickly. As a result, the whole phone is slooooow. I'm not trying to do anything fancy here, just dismiss a few reminders and check a few web pages and the thing can crawl to a standstill.

Nicer screen, BB OS 4.7, it's a big step in the right direction.

Time for an upgrade

SteveO86 06-19-2009 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akosnitzky (Post 1409529)
Separate processor for the radio. What is the significance of that?

We probably will see little no hit on performance when we are on the and doing other things on the BB. (Taking notes, Brick Breaker lol, going threw messages.)

Being able to talk on the phone with data transmission would be nice, but I don't believe CDMA does that right?

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Originally Posted by juwaack68 (Post 1409491)
And the best part? I've already been approved to get one for work :-)

Very nice, (y)

Quote:

Originally Posted by akosnitzky (Post 1409530)
Time for an upgrade

Indeed it is!

jsconyers 06-19-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveO86 (Post 1409728)
Being able to talk on the phone with data transmission would be nice, but I don't believe CDMA does that right?

Nope, no simultaneous voice and data. That's a limitation of CDMA currently.

ffejie 06-19-2009 08:09 AM

It's not a limitation of CDMA per se, but a limitation of the current implementation of the Verizon Wireless Network.

EVDO Rev A can do VoIP to the handset, where all voice/data comes to the handset as data, rather than on a voice channel. As far as I know, it will only take a network upgrade to enable this. I'm checking with some of the network engineers to see if this upgrade is going to happen and when. Simultaneous data and voice is a killer feature.

akosnitzky 06-19-2009 08:39 AM

Wirelessly posted (Its All About the U!)

So its a no go for now? :-)

lostman72 06-19-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ffejie (Post 1409808)
It's not a limitation of CDMA per se, but a limitation of the current implementation of the Verizon Wireless Network.

EVDO Rev A can do VoIP to the handset, where all voice/data comes to the handset as data, rather than on a voice channel. As far as I know, it will only take a network upgrade to enable this. I'm checking with some of the network engineers to see if this upgrade is going to happen and when. Simultaneous data and voice is a killer feature.

Well Verizon does this now with Push to Talk (PTT). PTT is on EVDO Rev A. There are no plans to do it on a standard handset. They will start doing this on LTE (4G). LTE will do voice and data on the same stream.

hcheun 06-19-2009 01:25 PM

I just hope and pray it's july 13, be a good birthday present for me ;-)

xxDruMMer BoYxx 06-20-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostman72 (Post 1410045)
Well Verizon does this now with Push to Talk (PTT). PTT is on EVDO Rev A. There are no plans to do it on a standard handset. They will start doing this on LTE (4G). LTE will do voice and data on the same stream.

When will LTE 4G take in effect?

SteveO86 06-20-2009 04:27 PM

It will be a while, 2010/2011 besides it will probably take RIM a bit longer to get an LTE BlackBerry out there.


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