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Old 08-11-2009, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK - I really, REALLY want Skype for the Blackberry (Tour) which I had on my iPhone (when I had an iPhone). That app worked very well. I was able to make calls @ .07 cents per minute from the iphone in the US to my daughters cellphone in Russia and make calls from my iPhone while in China back to a landline in the US for approx that same .07 cents!

I have Google Voice for the Blackberry, runs fine on my new Tour. I have a Google Voice account and phone number. I've been able to use GV on the Tour to send no cost text/SMS and calls from the US to overseas are approx .02 cents to .05 cents per minute.

Before I go to China on business in 3 weeks, I would love to hear from anyone who has used a Tour or other BB with Google Voice while roaming overseas... were you able to use GV while on GSM networks to make low cost calls back to the US???

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GV is not VoIP. It still uses your wireless plan minutes.
If you're roaming, you're going to hammered with roaming fees if you use GV.
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While not China i am now roaming in Ukraine. First off i should say that my sprint plan cannot be activated from International use so i have no BIS functions. I did however confirm with sprint that my tour was unlocked by having them give me the codes again. i then bought a local card and am now tethering with my tour and Macbook Pro to go online and use skype and incoming is fee on my phone so its not so bad. i cant tell you how it will work for you but for me that is what i did... and the phone works great...
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GV is not VoIP. It still uses your wireless plan minutes.
If you're roaming, you're going to hammered with roaming fees if you use GV.
Sorry, Penguin, but that's not correct. GV is VoIP - it's pretty clearly discussed throughout their site about how it works, and it's a focal point of pretty much every review of the app (e.g. the most recent one on GV for Android on Revision3's App Judgement).

It won't use your calling minutes, but will use your data IF you're not on WiFi. If you're abroad, then the data usage is probably more expensive than the calling would be. So, you really should try to use a WiFi connection if you're going to call from abroad.
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Sorry, Penguin, but that's not correct. GV is VoIP - it's pretty clearly discussed throughout their site about how it works, and it's a focal point of pretty much every review of the app (e.g. the most recent one on GV for Android on Revision3's App Judgement).

It won't use your calling minutes, but will use your data IF you're not on WiFi. If you're abroad, then the data usage is probably more expensive than the calling would be. So, you really should try to use a WiFi connection if you're going to call from abroad.
Actually, it is correct.
Try it. When you make a call from the BlackBerry using GV... your phone dials out to a gateway number using your voice minutes from your carrier.

Also, the Tour doesn't have WiFi... but I assume you were just making a general statement and not necessarily addressing me or the OP in that instance.
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Touchet, you are right. It's the gateway number calling that hits you, but it ends up as a VoIP call. Sorry about that, I stand corrected.

And, yes, I was making a general statement about GV and WiFI, not about the Tour per se.

Seems like you're screwed if you have a Tour and want really cheap calls internationally, or would Skype only use a data connection?
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Touchet, you are right. It's the gateway number calling that hits you, but it ends up as a VoIP call. Sorry about that, I stand corrected.

Seems like you're screwed if you have a Tour and want really cheap calls internationally, or would Skype only use a data connection?
Here's the key question: If in China (or anywhere overseas) is it simply a 1 minute call to the gateway and then the rest of the call is on VOIP? ... or is the entire length of call charged by the local carrier (or Sprint)???

If it is just that first minute, I'm happy to pay $2.29 for it and then .02 cents per minute to Google for the rest of my calls...

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BTW - On my last trip, I was able to use Skype on an iPhone with free Wifi in the Beijing airport but I "REALLY" want to just carry my Tour (which does not have WiFi).
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I would assume the whole thing is since you connect to the gateway, which then initiates the VoIP call. Since you're making the call from your device, whether the gateway drops out or not, your timer is still ticking.

I'm thinking your iPhone with WiFi is the only way to do this for free. I carry both, and wouldn't want to ditch one or the other. THey both have their advantages, at least in the US. Overseas, it's all iPhone thanks to the true global GSM, not Vodafone-limited GSM.
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I would assume the whole thing is since you connect to the gateway, which then initiates the VoIP call. Since you're making the call from your device, whether the gateway drops out or not, your timer is still ticking.

I'm thinking your iPhone with WiFi is the only way to do this for free. I carry both, and wouldn't want to ditch one or the other. THey both have their advantages, at least in the US. Overseas, it's all iPhone thanks to the true global GSM, not Vodafone-limited GSM.
Hopefully; others will reply to confirm or dispute that the call to the gateway would be charged for the "ENTIRE" length of the Google Voice call?

Yes - I could just bring the iPhone along as well, am trying to centralize on just one device and prefer the Tour.

BTW - with the Tour; with either Sprint or Verizon, you do have full GSM with all 4 bands plus the 3G world GSM band now too and both carriers will unlock no problem so no limits (on Verizon, Sprint was always unlocked) to only Vodaphone like the older 8830.

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You are connected to the gateway for the entire length of your call. It's a straightforward process. Your device calls the gateway, the gateway calls the other party and bridges the connection. It is a voice call, plain and simple. Google uses VoIP to route the call through their network, but then terminates on the PSTN just like any other phone call.

If you are roaming, using GV will not save you anything on your phone calls. You might save on calling into your voice mail to retrieve messages because GV transcribes your voice mails for you.
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