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Old 10-18-2007, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been desperately searching for some mindmapping software for Blackberry. Can anyone tell me if any exists, or if it's in the works? How about some tricks for sharing mindmaps between BB and desktop? Most mindmapping programs will let you import/export to a text outline format, so you could edit them on a blackberry that way, but it kind of misses the whole point of a mindmap, and you lose graphics, icons, and other information. Can anyone help?
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i would think mindmaps woud be a bit complex for bb? That being said, Freemind is java app that I use on workstations so maybe the might have slimmed down version for mobys these days, as I haven't checked their site in a long while.

Just checked and doesn't look like it:

Main Page - FreeMind - free mind mapping software

New workstation version out in beta13 though that looks pretty nice improvements over 0.8. It opensource and being java based runs on variety of platforms. Check it out anyways. It's free

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What the fsck is "mindmapping"? Sounds either really scientific or really really new-age.
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What the fsck is "mindmapping"? Sounds either really scientific or really really new-age.
Mindmaps are variants on tree structure / flowchart hybrids. They can appear as top-down, left-right, radial, etc. Lots of variations. They tend to be very good tools for brainstorming, quickly breaking down and analyzing a topic, creating outlines, and gathering the thoughts and discussion points in a meeting. Some people try to push them into becoming a substantial documentation technique, and typically find that they are somewhat limited compared even to something like Visio. NASA was big on mindmaps for a while (may still be).
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What the fsck is "mindmapping"? Sounds either really scientific or really really new-age.
What is the point of this question? If you don't know what it is, look it up. Google's good for that. Don't ask stupid questions. If you don't have an answer, keep quiet.

Mindmapping is an extremely helpful form of planning. I've used it often with great success. I haven't heard of a mindmapping app for the Blackberry and agree with greeneggsandham that it's probably too complex for the BB.
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What is the point of this question? If you don't know what it is, look it up. Google's good for that. Don't ask stupid questions. If you don't have an answer, keep quiet.
What's the point of your answer? Chill out, please.
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What's the point of your answer? Chill out, please.
With respect, JS, the point of my answer is that I actually answered the OP's question and added constructively to the conversation.
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Mindmaps are variants on tree structure / flowchart hybrids. They can appear as top-down, left-right, radial, etc. Lots of variations. They tend to be very good tools for brainstorming, quickly breaking down and analyzing a topic, creating outlines, and gathering the thoughts and discussion points in a meeting. Some people try to push them into becoming a substantial documentation technique, and typically find that they are somewhat limited compared even to something like Visio. NASA was big on mindmaps for a while (may still be).
Another key difference between mind maps and flow charts is that they can be more free flowing and often do not target any "end state", wh/is typical objective for flow charting. Also, mind maps tend to favor "visual spatial" thinking, whereas flow charts more linear-sequential. The worlds of work and school typically are designed to favor the linear-sequential thinkers (e.g. folks who make good mid-level management material). However, most truly genius/visionary types tend towards visual-spatial, e.g. Einstein. Most of us are mixtures of exh to varying degrees, rather than an either, or type of thing. So it's not to imply that visual-spatials type are incapable of linear-sequential thinking, but rather they will tend favor visual-spatial approach.

I like them for brainstorming sessions, both alone and with groups.

I just checked and Freemind is only 380KB so maybe able to run on some non bb device that uses sim card memory?

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When I looked it up on Wikipedia the answer was not so helpful. VinmontRD's answer was, and I thank you for it. Actuall sounds pretty cool. gdpmumin's anwwer, not so much. Perhaps I phrased my question poorly, and for that I apoligize.
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When I looked it up on Wikipedia the answer was not so helpful. VinmontRD's answer was, and I thank you for it. Actuall sounds pretty cool. gdpmumin's anwwer, not so much. Perhaps I phrased my question poorly, and for that I apoligize.
Thx rambo -- greeneggsandham's points were also very much on point regarding the nature of mind maps. I tend to be a visual spatial thinker, especially when I'm working on conceptualizing problems spaces, context for problem domains and solutions, and essentially "thinking outside the box" -- and for work like that, mind maps are great. Having been in process, technology and software for so long, however, much of the work entailed in implementing a concrete solution requires me to switch modes to linear/sequential thought. A personal quirk of mine is that I tend to keep the "visual/spatial" process going in the back of my mind while working on a linear solution: this can be a strength as well as a distraction. Even on the most mundane solutions, I tend to come up with considerations and designs beyond the narrowly defined problem domain. But it requires self-discipline to be able to keep this down to reasonable levels, and to avoid drifting off into "what if" land when working on something that ought to be routine. The dual modes of thought can be a double-edged sword.

As greeneggsandham said, these tools are great for brainstorming, and for quickly sketching out and dissecting a topic into its component parts -- be it a problem that you need to analyze, or a detailed breakdown structure of a project or product that you want to define. But...for me, the weak part of mind maps pops up when you want to clearly define a process, or set of processes, with decision points, branching and iteration/looping. You can do it with mind maps, but it's not a good fit in the modeling paradigm. That's where Visio, or any of a number of process modeling tools, is a better choice.

There are a few good choices out there, and something like FreeMind would be a great place to start and get familiar with the concept.
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I know it may not be true mind-mapping software, but try RexWireless todoMatrix REXwireless: BlackBerry Software Applications . Maybe you can move some things around to help achieve what you are after.
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Thx rambo -- greeneggsandham's points were also very much on point regarding the nature of mind maps. I tend to be a visual spatial thinker, especially when I'm working on conceptualizing problems spaces, context for problem domains and solutions, and essentially "thinking outside the box" -- and for work like that, mind maps are great. Having been in process, technology and software for so long, however, much of the work entailed in implementing a concrete solution requires me to switch modes to linear/sequential thought. A personal quirk of mine is that I tend to keep the "visual/spatial" process going in the back of my mind while working on a linear solution: this can be a strength as well as a distraction. Even on the most mundane solutions, I tend to come up with considerations and designs beyond the narrowly defined problem domain. But it requires self-discipline to be able to keep this down to reasonable levels, and to avoid drifting off into "what if" land when working on something that ought to be routine. The dual modes of thought can be a double-edged sword.

As greeneggsandham said, these tools are great for brainstorming, and for quickly sketching out and dissecting a topic into its component parts -- be it a problem that you need to analyze, or a detailed breakdown structure of a project or product that you want to define. But...for me, the weak part of mind maps pops up when you want to clearly define a process, or set of processes, with decision points, branching and iteration/looping. You can do it with mind maps, but it's not a good fit in the modeling paradigm. That's where Visio, or any of a number of process modeling tools, is a better choice.

There are a few good choices out there, and something like FreeMind would be a great place to start and get familiar with the concept.
Mindmaping is great for creative problem solving - figuring out solutions to problems you haven't seen before and for wh/there's is no "out of the box"solution, e.g. "thinking outside of the box". Flow charting is great for getting you there once you've figured out where you need to go.

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