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Old 10-24-2007, 10:25 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I have had POP enabled in my gmail account. Just turned it off, and no gmail is pushed to BB? Is POP then needed in gmail?
No, you don't need POP in GMail.
However, if you initially had it enabled... then that is what BIS will use.
If you turn off POP, you need to delete your GMail account from BIS, and then re-add it, otherwise BIS will continually try to use POP to connect to your GMail account.

GMail and Yahoo use specialized integration with BIS. Neither of them require POP or IMAP settings to be enabled.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I turned off POP in one of my gmail accounts, enables IMAP and setup my Outlook. Works like any other IMAP account. However, when I added this gmail account in the BIS (vzw) it worked like a regular gmail account - instant push but no immediate 2-way sync like Yahoo. I think RIM would have to make changes in the BIS to incorporate IMAP for gmail.
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BB 8830 on Verizon.

Enabled IMAP for BB.

Sent a message from my work email to my gmail acct. The message showed up in my gmail acct and my BB at the same time.

When I deleted it from my BB it removed it from my gmail acct. I did not see the deleted message in my Trash so it looks like it completely removed it.

I didn't setup the acct from my phone but from the BIS website for Verizon.
https://bis.na.blackberry.com/html?brand=vzw

Thanks gmail, now I can also setup Thunderbird to use IMAP for my gmail acct.
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No, you don't need POP in GMail.
However, if you initially had it enabled... then that is what BIS will use.
If you turn off POP, you need to delete your GMail account from BIS, and then re-add it, otherwise BIS will continually try to use POP to connect to your GMail account.
This is exactly what I tried to do. I disabled POP in GMail and then deleted and re-added the account in my BIS site. As soon as I did that, I checked my POP settings in GMail and then were enabled again, without me doing anything. I then disable POP in GMail, and then my e-mail messages stop coming. I wonder if there is something up with my GMail account. Oh well...
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No, you don't need POP in GMail.
However, if you initially had it enabled... then that is what BIS will use.
If you turn off POP, you need to delete your GMail account from BIS, and then re-add it, otherwise BIS will continually try to use POP to connect to your GMail account.

GMail and Yahoo use specialized integration with BIS. Neither of them require POP or IMAP settings to be enabled.
I went ahead and performed the following:

1) Deleted Gmail account from BIS
2) Disabled POP in Gmail Account
3) Re-added Gmail account to BIS

I then logged into my Gmail accout, and POP was automatically re-enabled?
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I went ahead and performed the following:

1) Deleted Gmail account from BIS
2) Disabled POP in Gmail Account
3) Re-added Gmail account to BIS

I then logged into my Gmail accout, and POP was automatically re-enabled?
This is EXACTLY what is happening to me. I am going to try to disable POP first, then delete the account on BIS, then re-add it.
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That has worked fine in the past. It is the other way around that I am looking for and I am sure many others. I would like to delete from Gmail and have it remove from the bb.

Also this was updated this month. Goes along with what the other guy said but we will see.

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I have had the IMAP setup for about an hour now on my BB. So far it seems a bit slower then the normal way for emails to arrive and nothing has been deleted that I have removed from Gmail. So I will give it more time but it seems like BIS would need to be updated to function like a normal IMAP client.

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BB 8830 on Verizon.

Enabled IMAP for BB.

Sent a message from my work email to my gmail acct. The message showed up in my gmail acct and my BB at the same time.

When I deleted it from my BB it removed it from my gmail acct. I did not see the deleted message in my Trash so it looks like it completely removed it.

I didn't setup the acct from my phone but from the BIS website for Verizon.
https://bis.na.blackberry.com/html?brand=vzw

Thanks gmail, now I can also setup Thunderbird to use IMAP for my gmail acct.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:41 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Beats me, guys.
My GMail is working fine, and POP is most definitely not enabled.

I guess only Google knows what's going on in their mysterious world of email.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:49 AM   #30 (permalink)
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As I posted earlier it's working for me.

I have noticed that in my gmail acct online I now have two new labels called

[IMAP]/Sent
[IMAP]/Trash

The messages that I remove from BB or Thunderbird show up in the IMAP/Trash label, not the regular trash.

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Beats me, guys.
My GMail is working fine, and POP is most definitely not enabled.
And with POP disabled, your receive your Gmail immediately? No 15 minute delay?
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This is EXACTLY what is happening to me. I am going to try to disable POP first, then delete the account on BIS, then re-add it.
Tried this, and POP is still enabled in Gmail after adding Gmail acct to BIS.
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I only use BIS for my several GMAIL accounts. My work email is on a BES.

Technically I could not have to use my BIS anymore and just add my GMAIL to outlook, which in turn should be delivered thru BES? Yes/No?

Any insight would be great.

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Old 10-24-2007, 11:12 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Sorry to bother guys, which are the best setting for gmail and google hosted and BIS? I'm a bit confused.

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That has worked fine in the past. It is the other way around that I am looking for and I am sure many others. I would like to delete from Gmail and have it remove from the bb.

Also this was updated this month. Goes along with what the other guy said but we will see.

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I have had the IMAP setup for about an hour now on my BB. So far it seems a bit slower then the normal way for emails to arrive and nothing has been deleted that I have removed from Gmail. So I will give it more time but it seems like BIS would need to be updated to function like a normal IMAP client.
I've also noted that items sent through gmail from the BB are not appearing in the sent folder on the gmail web app like they used to. It does also seem a bit slower. At least now when I send email from the web app, it doesn't also get sent to my BB.
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I think google's notification server arrangement (with the BIS) controls instant email delivery. When RIM enabled the IMAP-IDLE function awhile back (and now disabled it) the BIS/IMAP connection would handle the instant notification. So far I don't see anything new with gmail/IMAP and the BIS.
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As I posted earlier it's working for me.

I have noticed that in my gmail acct online I now have two new labels called

[IMAP]/Sent
[IMAP]/Trash

The messages that I remove from BB or Thunderbird show up in the IMAP/Trash label, not the regular trash.

http://www.randyandgerri.com/images/gmailimap.jpg
How long has yours been enabled. I don't have those labels on my page. Logged out and logged back in also.
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How long has yours been enabled. I don't have those labels on my page. Logged out and logged back in also.
The labels showed up about 10 minutes after the first time I sent an email from BB. I then deleted some test messages sent to my gmail acct and the trash label was once again added about 10 minutes after that. To make myself clear the labels where added by google automatically, I didn't set them up.
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Ok,

I have imap enabled with one of my BB accounts. The message status reconciliation definitely works, thank god! But, the trade-off seems to be, the imap is NOT push, it seems to be polling. I'll test it for a little while though.

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How long is it taking from reading or deleting something in Gmail to showing up on your Blackberry?



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Ok,

I have imap enabled with one of my BB accounts. The message status reconciliation definitely works, thank god! But, the trade-off seems to be, the imap is NOT push, it seems to be polling. I'll test it for a little while though.

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