Don't use Voice Dialing? Remove it and free up over 1/2 MB of Memory - Page 2 - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community

Iare Tosevite · 12-05-2007, 11:57 PM

Yeah. That was exactly what I wanted to do. Ring tones do nothing to me, and most of preinstalled stuff either wasn't my style, or was useless.

I would have removed more if those were not such an important part of OS, such as Phone application, because 1) it runs all time. 2) I will never use it at all.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

You don't use the phone?

Iare Tosevite · 12-06-2007, 12:02 AM

It's built for a sense I don't have. ;) I'm deaf since birth.

John Clark · 12:05 AM

Aha!!

One of our Moderators, Mark Rehjon is deaf, too.

Iare Tosevite · 12-06-2007, 12:11 AM

Yeah? Cool.

I'll stop here to prevent topic derail. ;)

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

No worries....it's my thread!

gameboy213 · 12-06-2007, 01:23 AM

Can you simply delete the .cod's using Sure Wipe on the device itself? I never us VAD and would love to remove it.... but I don't sync to a windows comp ever unless I have too.....

zerog46 · 12-07-2007, 09:38 AM

Nah pretty sure you need a computer with the o.s. installed.

Iare Tosevite · 12-07-2007, 03:09 PM

You can delete it directly by command line, but it's an ugly hack. Method shown here is much easier.

Nextel User · 04:11 PM

i always use the osclean.cmd file

this is great info. i will add it to the file to auto clean those files as well

here is the osclean files. i have not added it yet. as always thanx to Spectral for making it.

i left in the hebrew files. if you dont want those then add the line for *.he to the languages section.
also for vista right click and run as admin

gameboy213 · 12-07-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Iare Tosevite

You can delete it directly by command line, but it's an ugly hack. Method shown here is much easier.

so using Sure Wipe wouldn't make it easier? If not I have to find a PC and connect to it..... that is a pain in the arse for me....

dnaL0R · 12-07-2007, 07:34 PM

first post, heh... the browser on my pearl is pending connection [couple more hours?]

ok, i downloaded the Desktop Manager v4.3 on my PC, but i cannot access the "application loader" menu because i also need to DL the v4.3 OS to my PC as well, correct? well, i went to the link that the op placed in the thread, but i could not find the v4.3, so what now? i really want to free up some space on my new pearl... thnx guys

rivviepop · 12-07-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dnaL0R

ok, i downloaded the Desktop Manager v4.3 on my PC, but i cannot access the "application loader" menu because i also need to DL the v4.3 OS to my PC as well, correct? well, i went to the link that the op placed in the thread, but i could not find the v4.3, so what now? i really want to free up some space on my new pearl... thnx guys

While there are hacks (i.e. using JL_cmdr on the commandline) you're better off waiting on Sprint to release the OS files for the 8130, there's not a whole lot you can do except call them and light a fire under their tuckus. My advice is that you don't want to go whacking around on your 8130 to this extent (this thread) until you have a copy of the firmware -- what happens if something goes wrong and you need to reload the OS from scratch? You'd be completely screwed. :(

zerog46 · 12-07-2007, 07:56 PM

There is a copy of the Sprint O.S. in the 8100 forum.

rivviepop · 12-07-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zerog46

There is a copy of the Sprint O.S. in the 8100 forum.

Oh cool, they finally released it - looks like 3 days ago. I can hear the Sprint people rejoicing already....

dnaL0R · 12-08-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zerog46

There is a copy of the Sprint O.S. in the 8100 forum.

is this it? http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-released.html

dnaL0R · 12-08-2007, 10:37 PM

i downloaded the v4.3 desktop manager for my pc, but i am not sure what to do next... can someone re illiterate it for me... i really want to free up some space and put a new theme on my phone

snowskier79 · 12-08-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John Clark

First, if you're new to BB or you've never made modifications to your BB before then this may not be the procedure for you. However, if you're familiar with the BB and it's OS and have edited made modifications, such as for themes, then continue on. . . . .

Great write up JC; thanks!

rambo47 · **OS:** 4.7.1.57

I just did it and freed up a ton of memory. I removed all the unused languages, plus all the associated VAD files for each. Plus I took the opportunity to install the latest OS on my Curve (Hong Kong CSL) while I was tinkering. I had been running the OS from O2 that was the only one to allow T-Mobile users to get a web browser, so it was about a year old. I went from 19.5 MB of free space to a full 25 MB.

zerog46 · 12-08-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dnaL0R

is this it? http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-released.html

Yup that's it.

Hauser · 12-10-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zerog46

Yup that's it.

Great tip! Two questions:

Is there a sticky somewhere that covers memory optimizations like this? If not I humbly request that "people who know" start one.
If there is no list I'm happy to start poking around. As a general rule, is it ok to load an OS from a PC where the files listed in the ALX don't actually exist (or are renamed) in the PC file system?

Spamdumpster · 12-10-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hauser

Great tip! Two questions:

Is there a sticky somewhere that covers memory optimizations like this? If not I humbly request that "people who know" start one.
If there is no list I'm happy to start poking around. As a general rule, is it ok to load an OS from a PC where the files listed in the ALX don't actually exist (or are renamed) in the PC file system?

AFAIK, there is no sticky, but I agree that there should be. My post here may be a good place to start: BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community.

Obviously, no warranties, use at your own risk, screwing up could brick your device, etc.

Also, someone wrote a script that automates the process of cleaning up the OS before an update: See this thread: BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community

gameboy213 · 12-15-2007, 03:44 PM

I am still wondering... since no one has officially answered.... maybe JC knows as he wrote the 'how to'. I don't have a PC to sync up and erase the files through Desktop Manager as I run BES and a Mac. However, would LOVE to erase these files as I never us VC and never will. So can I delete these files using Mobylo! Sure Wipe? I have deleted things that wouldn't delete any other way before with the app, and would love to know if this would be possible for at least the bigger files, so I can free up the extra memory.
Thanks in advance.

JSanders · 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hauser

Is there a sticky somewhere that covers memory optimizations like this? If not I humbly request that "people who know" start one.
If there is no list I'm happy to start poking around. As a general rule, is it ok to load an OS from a PC where the files listed in the ALX don't actually exist (or are renamed) in the PC file system?

Somebody knew you were going to ask that question--months ago!
How do I free up memory on my device? - BlackBerryFAQ
Why is my BlackBerry losing its call logs or message logs? - BlackBerryFAQ

Good luck!

joginder · 12-15-2007, 11:12 PM

IF I remove Blackberry Messanger will I still be able to send/recieve PIN mesgs? I would like to get rid of it

juwaack68 · 12-15-2007, 11:30 PM

Yes, you can still send/receive via the Messages application.

gameboy213 · 12-17-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gameboy213

I am still wondering... since no one has officially answered.... maybe JC knows as he wrote the 'how to'. I don't have a PC to sync up and erase the files through Desktop Manager as I run BES and a Mac. However, would LOVE to erase these files as I never us VC and never will. So can I delete these files using Mobylo! Sure Wipe? I have deleted things that wouldn't delete any other way before with the app, and would love to know if this would be possible for at least the bigger files, so I can free up the extra memory.
Thanks in advance.

Can no one answer this? I really wanna remove that stuff!

Iare Tosevite · 12-17-2007, 09:49 PM

I re-added this:

net_rim_bb_media_8830_320x240_b

And I got ability to change folder icons once again. Confirmed.

Rest still removed.

akosnitzky · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

Wirelessly posted (Verizon 8830: BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105 UP.Browser/5.0.3.3 UP.Link/5.1.2.1)

To be clear,
It is not simple enough to delete as a vendor theme.
I ask the question because the later posts seemed to have evolved away from what was stated at the beginning.

akosnitzky · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

Wirelessly posted (Verizon 8830: BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105 UP.Browser/5.0.3.3 UP.Link/5.1.2.1)

Oh....
Please disregard my post above. I see the issue now.
Jeesh....

akosnitzky · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

I installed the device software to my PC but don't see the java folder. Any suggestions?

Danabw · 01:59 AM

<edit>

Never mind...

akosnitzky · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

Wow. I had to upgrade to a later software version and was able to delete all of the files and freeing up 7 MB from the upgrade and another 2 MB from removing the VAD Cod file.

Thank you very much.

Sith_Apprentice · 12-23-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kopter

I did the 'John Clark REM Method' ... picked up about a MB. Also REM'd an unused theme while i was in there and picked up another MB or so. Thanks !!!!

I did both of these and now even with several apps installed including all of eoffice, viigo, vncviewer, jivetalk, and others, i still have ~22.5mb free

Thanks for the instructions

gameboy213 · 12-24-2007, 02:32 PM

I went ahead with a backup and then deletion of the VC files using Sure Wipe on the device... with no issues. I also deleted the media that is installed on the device the same way and it went perfectly.
Love the extra space!

Rancho Gordo · 12-24-2007, 03:06 PM

I love Voice Dialing. I'm surprised you are all so eager to delete it!

jamespaulritter · 06-18-2008, 12:13 AM

Wow,,, that was a big-O'l-piece of cake. Thanks John Clark. Its great to be voice command free.

jamespaulritter · 06-18-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rancho Gordo

I love Voice Dialing. I'm surprised you are all so eager to delete it!

I have deleted it from my last 5 or so devices. I also cant stand this new technology of voice recognition customer service help lines.

Computer: "If you have called because you are not able to access the Internet say, Internet. If you have called because you have questions about your bill, say Bill".

Me: "Internet".

Computer: "Ok, I'll connect you to our billing department".

On Voice Command it goes like this.

I press the button. Then there's a beep. I say "call home". The prompt says, "Call home?". I say "yes". The prompt says, "OK calling bank". AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! Ok really?????? Yes I can just push the button instead.

JSanders · 06-18-2008, 12:32 AM

lol, I feel your pain.

I'll be responding to a voice activated call, me saying "YES", or "NO" or whatever, with a raised voice, firm, so it can hear me on my headset, and my wife will lean over and sweetly say "Be Nice".

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamespaulritter

I have deleted it from my last 5 or so devices. I also cant stand this new technology of voice recognition customer service help lines.

Computer: "If you have called because you are not able to access the Internet say, Internet. If you have called because you have questions about your bill, say Bill".

Me: "Internet".

Computer: "Ok, I'll connect you to our billing department".

On Voice Command it goes like this.

I press the button. Then there's a beep. I say "call home". The prompt says, "Call home?". I say "yes". The prompt says, "OK calling bank". AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! Ok really?????? Yes I can just push the button instead.

That is EXACTLY why I wrote this post!