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Old 06-22-2005, 12:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default HELP! Want to buy a BB, but need to better understand how sync works in my situation

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Would like to purchase a 6230 or 7230, but before doing so, need to understand what functionality is available to me, given the architecture of my current technolgical situation.

Here's what I have
Work Email
I use a laptop that runs Outlook 2000. Emails sent to my work address are delivered to a standard POP server (where incoming email resides until the Outlook program on the laptop queries the server for emails). Each time this query occurs, emails residing in the POP server's "Inbox" are transferred to the Outlook inbox on my laptop. At this point the "master copy" of each email now resides in the Outlook Inbox on my laptop, and the Pop server's inbox is empty.

Personal Email
For personal emails I use a yahoo account that operates by the same concept -->same laptop using Outlook Express queries Yahoo periodically and transfers all Yahoo inbox emails to Outlook express.

Here are my questions
1. I realize that without MS Exchange or other similar email server and BES, real-time sync with work email is not possible (please confirm). However, is it possible to real-time sync my personal emails that come from Yahoo? If so, then, for example, if I deleted a personal email on the blackberry, what would tell the email client on my laptop (when connected to the internet, of course) to delete that email? I'm thinking that in order to take advantage of real-time sync with Yahoo, I would need to discontinue use of Outlook express so that all emails primarily resided on the Yahoo server until deleted on the blackberry or at yahoo directly. Is this true? Is there any way to use a local email client and still have real-time sync with personal email in this configuration? My primary need is to have instant notification at the laptop when an email arrives in the yahoo account.

2. Syncing contacts and calendar - My contacts and calendar reside in Outlook 2000 on the laptop. Since we do not use an Exchange server/BES, how does a person sync contacts and calendar? Is this accomplished like a Palm, whereby you periodically connect via USB and sync manually?

Any input would be most helpful!
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It sounds like you need the redirector. It will send mail that comes into outlook to your phone.

Contact syncing is a non-issue. It will sync to whatever outlook's default is.

From Verizon:

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BlackBerry Desktop Software utilizing desktop redirector

Designed for individual users to install and use on their desktop PC when they do not have access to a BlackBerry Enterprise Server through their company.
Features and Functionality:

* Send and receive email from your corporate email address
* Sent and deleted emails are reconciled in your mailbox
* Synchronization of tasks, calendar, and contacts
* End-to-end security through Triple DES Encryption

BlackBerry Desktop Software utilizing desktop redirector requirements:

* Outlook 98/2000/XP (Corporate or Workgroup Installation)
* Email account on a Microsoft Exchange Server version 5.5/2000
* Internet/email enabled PC with an Intel486™ processor or higher
* Windows® 95/98/2000/XP or Windows NT® 4.0 or higher
* One available serial port

If you are unsure whether or not you meet these system requirements, please check with your IT professional.
Note:

* To utilize the redirector functionality, your Desktop PC must remain on and connected to the network in order for email redirection to occur.
* BlackBerry Desktop Software utilizing desktop redirector does not work with Outlook Express and Outlook functioning independently from any Exchange Server (i.e. configured through a POP3 server).
* BlackBerry Desktop Software utilizing desktop redirector does not support individual POP3/ISP email accounts.
Actually it looks like it requires exchange for redirection. Perhaps you could set up outlook to forward all mail to your Blackberry web account and not use the redirector at all.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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For work try and see if your email admin can do a redirect from the mail server to your BB email, which is provided with your BB plan.

Yahoo is a tough one for me I have issues with that one too. You can POP it with BWC. It basically checks your email like Outlook Express does. Usually on a 15 min interval. Make sure you choose the option to leave it on the server though so it is there for your Outlook Express. Only thing you may run into is if Outlook Express checks it prior to BWC unless you again have it leave it on the server.

Fun stuff, been messing with email and getting it the way I want since I got my BB over 4 months ago.

Do a search, there are many ways people have come up with to meet their needs and they may have another option or combination that will suit you. Either that or you sometimes just need to play with it until you get what you want.
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It sounds like you need the redirector. It will send mail that comes into outlook to your phone.

Contact syncing is a non-issue. It will sync to whatever outlook's default is.

I ASSUME THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH A SERIAL/USB CONNECTION RIGHT? (Since XChange/BES isn't being utilized)

Actually it looks like it requires exchange for redirection. Perhaps you could set up outlook to forward all mail to your Blackberry web account and not use the redirector at all.
I'll probably have to setup the POP server to forward a copy of each email to BB before making available for Outlook download...then manually manage the inboxes of each (BB & Outlook) to match eachother. Not ideal, but I'm not sure there's any other option.

Thanks for your input!
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