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Old 12-01-2007, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I posted this in the 8100 section, but since I don't think I received a definitive response from an actual user in my predicament, thought I would try here. I've update the post to reflect the latest. So I called Verizon data tech support 4 times. Each time I got a different answer - 1st no, then you have to call Blackberry, then yes, it should, then the last time in which they got RIM on the phone and confirmed that in fact it does work. They even posted a confimration in my file with a case number just in case there were problems. So, here is the only thing I'm trying to find out.

No exchange server, just using pop mail on a hosted mail server. Right now with my pocket pc and using Verizon's wireless sync client, I can wirelessly sync email, contacts, appointments, tasks, notes. I'm told that with the blackberry I can't use Verizon's wireless sync client and must use either BIS or a desktop redirector. Acutally, the next to the last verizon tech person said both and the last tech person said on BIS since you needed an exchange server for the redirector. I think everyone was consistant in that I can not wireless sync anything but email. Everything else must be via a cable.....and that's ok. But what I couldn't get a consistant answer on was that if I sent an email from my phone, would it wind up in my outlook sent folder on my desktop. Some people have suggested BCC, but I don't want to necessarily do that if not required as a BCC would not wind up in the sent folder and I assume I would need some filters to make sure the bcc is not resent as a new email to my phone. Anyone have actual experience and setup recommendations for this.

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Definitve answer--

POP mail will not sync on BIS at all. You can receive all messages on the BlackBerry. You may be able to sync deletes FROM the BlackBerry to you pop server, some limited syncing of deletes from the server to the BlackBerry, according to your server. No syncing of BlackBerry-sent mail to your outlook on BIS, Redirector yes.

You can sync contacts, memos and tasks to/from outlook via USB

BES will do all you want if you require it.

There no need to double-post your questions on these forums.

Good luck.

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Yep, BES is the answer if you want two way wireless syncing and reconciliation of e-mail.
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Wirelessly posted (8800: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8310/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Definitve answer--

POP mail will not sync on BIS at all. You can receive all messages on the BlackBerry. You may be able to sync deletes FROM the BlackBerry to you pop server, some limited syncing of deletes from the server to the BlackBerry, according to your server. No syncing of BlackBerry-sent mail to your outlook on BIS, Redirector yes.

You can sync contacts, memos and tasks to/from outlook via USB

BES will do all you want if you require it.

There no need to double-post your questions on these forums.

Good luck.
Can you clarify the redirector part of your response. Can I use that without an excahnge sever and therefore get what I'm looking for? Please understand my frustration - getting different answers all over the place, hoping I can find someone tryign to do exactly what I am which seems so basic.
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Yep, BES is the answer if you want two way wireless syncing and reconciliation of e-mail.
But without BES any chance? Just don't want to pay another at least $10 to $20 bucks a month for a hosted excahnge server on top of my monthly wireless bill.

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I just changed from the Q with wireless sync, to the 8130. Spent about a day with the Verizon Tech people if thats what you want to call them. They didnt have a clue about syncing.

I ended up with the BB tech support who downloaded a program to put onto my exchange server to sync all outlook items. This is the only way they (BB) said it could be done.

If you go to the PocketInforment8 web site they are developing a third party software to sync but I have never found this option to be very dependable. I have to think that BB is getting a lot of calls on this.

I have heard that they are in the process of developing the sync software. Also heard the they are developing the BB 9000 which is like the iphone. So its back to the usb sync for now, other that email. I dont think they can avoid do this. Wireless is the future for sure.
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