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03-19-2008, 06:21 PM
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It looks like everything that you are doing is with Desktop Manager...
what about us Mac users that want to get rid of the stupid att theme and the locked preloaded pictures.
I was able to delete the sample video without any problem, but the themes and the preloaded pics are annoying.
any advice??
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I got rid of all the useless files on my Curve with my Mac Pro by using VMware Fusion running Vista, worked like a charm.
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03-20-2008, 07:51 AM
Once upon a time I found a silver dollar in my washing machine under my freshly laundered clothes. Therefore I deduced " Doing laundry can be extremely profitable! " So.......I frantically began doing more and more washes, used more and more detergent and discarded many many items where the thread began to fall out. Would more money be found?? I'm not convinced. I have since deduced that "Doing laundry SOMETIMES is profitable." The older I get, the wiser I get. Ain't life grand? Oh Yeah !
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03-20-2008, 12:10 PM
John, thanks a bunch for this. Great help.
Question though.
I have the 8130 with Telus in Canada.
After doing what you mentioned, and even deleting VAD, I only have 17-18 MB free. I have looked, I have a few apps installed that are large, Opera Mini, Facebook, Jive Talk, BB Maps.
I don't have a lot of contacts or messages. When I load the phone with DM, says its loading about 34MB of stuff when updating, plus give or take a few MBs of my apps and databases (which are 700KB, btw.)
Any idea what else is there that is taking up so much?
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03-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Hi everyone.
For my 1st post, I really would like to thank John for this. My BB8800 now boast of 33MB free memory from 14MB previously. First, I had trouble saving the .alx file, then this thread also gave me the solution (I'm on Vista)
You've helped a lot of people here John. Thanks a lot.
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03-20-2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020: BlackBerry8320/4.3.1.27 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
I believe this has been addressed in this thread already but its a problem with your edited blackberry.alx. Reinstall the OS and edit it again. Don't use notepad to edit. Edit with Wordpad, at least.
If you saved an original .alx use that. Otherwise, reinstall the OS.
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Hi John.
I am having a same problem. I re-installed OS several time already, and edited with wordpad. And still having a same problem. I use 8300 AT&T and tried to install newest OS. I ve read your step #4 numerous time, and i still cant figure it out. What am i doing wrong?
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03-20-2008, 05:25 PM
Hi, John- I got through step 4 including adding BBmaps, and tried the Application Loader at that point.
Every time, I get the error message:
The application "Browser" cannot be loaded, because it requires the following applications that are not available: net.rim.blackberry.xml
Am I doing something wrong?
thanks,
Steven
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03-20-2008, 08:16 PM
If I so happened not to know about this thread until I installed everything, Is it too late or can a restore do the trick?
Last edited by Jayden0606 : 03-21-2008 at 02:09 PM.
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03-20-2008, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by drstefano
Hi, John- I got through step 4 including adding BBmaps, and tried the Application Loader at that point.
Every time, I get the error message:
The application "Browser" cannot be loaded, because it requires the following applications that are not available: net.rim.blackberry.xml
Am I doing something wrong?
thanks,
Steven
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Go back to your Blacberry.alx file and make sure you deleted the VendorID codes properly, and got them all. Mine did the same thing when I ran through this thread because instead of deleting the whole "_vendorID="xxx"" I just deleted the quotes and the numbers.
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03-20-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mizditz101
Go back to your Blacberry.alx file and make sure you deleted the VendorID codes properly, and got them all. Mine did the same thing when I ran through this thread because instead of deleting the whole "_vendorID="xxx"" I just deleted the quotes and the numbers.
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Thanks, ditz-- I'll check. I ran through it twice but it's such a tricky operation that it's very likely that I missed something
--Steven
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03-21-2008, 12:03 AM
Did you just scroll, or did you do the Find: "___" thing? That's how I ended up having to do it so I didn't miss anything lol
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03-21-2008, 12:45 AM
i've read through all the pages looking at the few people who had the browser error with the app loader and getting the net.rim.blackberry.xml error... i read the responses and tried every one of them
i've reinstalled the os... nothing
reinstalled desktop manager... nothing
reinstalled the os twice or more and deleted the vendor file every single time and opening up blackberry.alx and deleting every vendorID i saw with the quotes and numbers as instructed... (i had done it before with a previous OS and it worked perfectly)
the only difference this time i can think of is i'm doing it with the one with asian text support 8320CJK_PBr4[1].2.2_rel338_PL2.5.0.40_A4.2.2.184_SingTel.
i'm gonna reboot my computer now and try the app loader again but i've done that several times as well. any suggestions?
also, why the heck does it say that i still have app loader running in the background when it's not... it keeps giving me that error during reinstalls of the OS or the desktop manager
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03-21-2008, 12:52 AM
I believe that errors arises from mis-editing the blackberry.alx files, happened to me recently. I reinstalled the new OS, re-edited my blackberry.alx, and all was fine.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-21-2008, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JSanders
I believe that errors arises from mis-editing the blackberry.alx files, happened to me recently. I reinstalled the new OS, re-edited my blackberry.alx, and all was fine.
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yep, that's what i kept reading... and i've done it again and again... i open it with word pad, use the find feature to looking for vendorID and delete all that i'm supposed to. i do this until i get to the bottom of the text with nothing left. then i click the save button. it warns me that i'm about to save it and something about text format and i just click ok and that's it
run the app loader and error again and again
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03-21-2008, 01:48 AM
i removed the os from the computer, reinstalled the os and went through the steps again... and i'm still getting this net.rim.blackberry error
i'm only deleting the vendorid and the numbers and the quotes... also the underscore in front of vendorid also the space in front of that as well
what is always weird is as i'm going down the code and deleting, i get near the bottom half and the font is different on the code. somewhere around the GPRS stuff. but i still delete the vendorid part per instructions.
some parts of this java 1.0 thing which i leave alone since it's before the vendorid stuff.
what can i be missing? should i just wipe the phone and install this OS?
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03-21-2008, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mizditz101
Did you just scroll, or did you do the Find: "___" thing? That's how I ended up having to do it so I didn't miss anything lol
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I did the Find thing, and after each occurrence, hit "Find Next" but that doesn't mean that I actually deleted them properly. I could easily have made a mistake, deleting too much or too little from one or more entries.
Did you get the exact same error message that I got?
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03-21-2008, 12:05 PM
Well, at least I feel a little less stupid, seeing how many of you have run into the same message. I've also installed and uninstalled the OS a few times.
I'm hoping that I won't have to do it many more times.
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03-21-2008, 12:43 PM
JOHN, where are you...Please help us with this issue!!! 
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GOT IT! Removed the Browser error -
03-21-2008, 01:45 PM
Of course, now that I got it after a number of frustrating tries, it's simple (but not easy  ). Just follow John's instructions exactly.
I was deleting too much. Only take out this much (example):
_vendorID="100"
Delete everything from _ through 100" but LEAVE IN THE >
Once I got it, the upload went through the first time.
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03-21-2008, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayden0606
If I so happened not to know about this thread until I installed everything, Is it too late or can a restore do the trick?
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anyone?
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03-21-2008, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by drstefano
Of course, now that I got it after a number of frustrating tries, it's simple (but not easy  ). Just follow John's instructions exactly.
I was deleting too much. Only take out this much (example):
_vendorID="100"
Delete everything from _ through 100" but LEAVE IN THE >
Once I got it, the upload went through the first time.
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Yupp, that > would do it.
Think of it as HTML (if you know HTML coding) If you try to put in a break (< b r >) and leave out the > (and of course the spaces for real)... it's not going to work. It's an un-finished code :P
Glad you got it working, however! It does get frustrating when you have to do it 3-4x to get it to work
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03-22-2008, 09:56 AM
i tried as jc told us
and now my bb's memory is 27m free! cool
I LOVE MY BB8320 !
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03-22-2008, 10:53 AM
Wirelessly posted (8310; The Juggernaut)
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Originally Posted by Jayden0606
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayden0606
If I so happened not to know about this thread until I installed everything, Is it too late or can a restore do the trick?
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anyone?
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You can still edit the BlackBerry.alx file, and remove the cod files as directed, and go back through the OS upgrade manually. It may appear nothing is happening, but follow the procedure as instructed in the original post.
Good luck.
Last edited by JSanders : 03-22-2008 at 11:01 AM.
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03-22-2008, 10:59 AM
Wirelessly posted (8310; The Juggernaut)
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Originally Posted by nova609
JOHN, where are you...Please help us with this issue!!! 
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You simply are not editing the BlackBerry.alx file as directed. See the post just a couple above this one for a good explanation.
Also, look at the examples in the initial post of this thread.
If the error persists. I would recommend that you simply delete the entire OS upgrade from your PC (the entire folder) and start fresh from installing the *.exe file.
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03-22-2008, 12:19 PM
Great Tips John  
All things are possible, except for skiing through a revolving door...
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03-22-2008, 05:25 PM
Got it... This guide is remarkable! Great job! I see a drastic improvement in the speed of my BB.
One thing... I didn't get the VodaFone theme. I honestly don't know what it looks like, but the standard 3 are there.
I kept:
net_rim_theme_120_green_320x240_b
net_rim_theme_120_today_320x240_b
I don't have the option though. Also is there a way to change "AT&T" that's at the top to whatever I want?
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03-22-2008, 07:28 PM
I've finally got all my entries moved from Password Keeper into Ascendo Data Vault. Now my question is if I remove Password Keeper from the App Loader I won't lose any other security features within my BlackBerry itself? (It just removes the application right)
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03-22-2008, 08:06 PM
Great Write up John, was ablw to free up my BB.... Thank you.
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03-23-2008, 07:10 PM
U ARE A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
lol, no seriously this guide is incredible.
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03-23-2008, 07:12 PM
Thanks! Was happy to do it.
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03-23-2008, 07:19 PM
I've added a note about the following:
I am a loyal fan of TMo Zen so I've safely removed the BBDimension Icon, Dimension L, and Dimension Today themes. The only themes I have loaded are BBDimension Zen and TMobile Zen (vendor coded theme.)
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03-24-2008, 12:04 AM
Yeah? Mines just BBDimension Zen and **** Simple ( Includes my real first name )
Latter is very small and simple theme. I really do have to fix a couple of problems so I can upload it somewhere. :P
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03-24-2008, 05:06 PM
Wow ! Thanks 
Lucas
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03-24-2008, 09:20 PM
went to install OS....Invalid Configuration The application cannot be loaded because it requires the following application that is not available
net.rim.blackberry.xml
any ideas whats up? cannot load the updated OS
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03-24-2008, 09:22 PM
Welcome to the forums. This question has been asked and answered several times in this same thread.
Reinstall the OS to your PC and then try it again.
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03-24-2008, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Welcome to the forums. This question has been asked and answered several times in this same thread.
Reinstall the OS to your PC and then try it again.
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I had the same problem today; listen to what JC says.
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03-24-2008, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Welcome to the forums. This question has been asked and answered several times in this same thread.
Reinstall the OS to your PC and then try it again.
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Thank you for this site...its great! I found what the problem was...I deleted > symbol when deleting the _vendorID="xxx" I put the symbol back in...everything was ok!
Thank you for the welcome aboard to the forum!!! I love this site...lots of good information!
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03-24-2008, 11:11 PM
Thank you John for the post on memory freeing. I lost my BB maps. Says it is there but no Icon or access. Got a bunch of Black and white icons. Suspect it was a result of Removing all the "VendorID=XXX" Got to go watch Fox. Will check back tomorrow.
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03-24-2008, 11:18 PM
Black and white icons just means there is no theme installed. Put the dimension zen theme back, at the very least. Then just switch themes on the device. No BBmaps means you didn't edit the LBS.alx properly.
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03-25-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Black and white icons just means there is no theme installed. Put the dimension zen theme back, at the very least. Then just switch themes on the device. No BBmaps means you didn't edit the LBS.alx properly.
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Hi, and thanks again. Well I tried to add the themes back from the phone but was unable so I want back and re installed the program and modified it again. That worked. Interesting enough I had no problem with using BBmaps before I started fooling around with these changes. Then BBMaps disappeared. Once I changed the lbs file it came back.
Now what I am wondering is I select all of the non eng language files, (cod) in the Java directory, will that save me space?
Is Tel Nav just an icon on the phone? I know I can hide it, but is it just an icon or a loader for the program which I would want to remove?
Same question with the Shop XX icons?
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03-25-2008, 03:43 PM
Your questions have already been answered in this thread.
Everyone: Please, read through the thread. Most of the questions have been asked and answered already. This thread is 400 posts long because many ask the same questions that have already been asked and answered.
Thank you.
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