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03-25-2008, 08:12 PM
I have a question on the 8130 pearl when you go to options>adv options>applications>menu click and then go to moduels... what are those for???
also one other question can i run themes from my micro sd card???? if so how...
thnk you for ur answers in advance...
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03-25-2008, 08:16 PM
Those are the modules from the java folder that are loaded to your device.
You can't run apps from the SD card.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-25-2008, 08:29 PM
oh ok.. thnks john.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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03-26-2008, 05:18 PM
Hey JC (or anyone else really)... I have an odd question.
I deleted my little icon on my desktop for my OS, and I downloaded it again.
I'm trying to put everything back to stock because I'm shipping this phone back and don't want to take any chances...
To get it so it doesn't keep the same edited Blackberry.alx file (which it did) can I just delete the whole ResearchInMotion folder from my common files and run the .exe again? Or will this just mess things up more?
Last edited by mizditz101 : 03-26-2008 at 05:22 PM.
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BlackBerry Genius
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03-26-2008, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mizditz101
Hey JC (or anyone else really)... I have an odd question.
I deleted my little icon on my desktop for my OS, and I downloaded it again.
I'm trying to put everything back to stock because I'm shipping this phone back and don't want to take any chances...
To get it so it doesn't keep the same edited Blackberry.alx file (which it did) can I just delete the whole ResearchInMotion folder from my common files and run the .exe again? Or will this just mess things up more?
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uninstall the os from Add / Remove programs and then reinstall.
Honestly though, you won't have any issues returning it as is ... as long as it functions.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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03-26-2008, 05:29 PM
Mmk thank you. That was my next guess lol.
I know that there's like a 99.99% chance that they wont notice..
But stranger things HAVE happened. They weren't going to replace my Razr on verizon because I had edited firmware... The guy at the store was nice though and said "Go home fix it, come back, I didn't see it" so I did get it replaced... But like I said, I'd rather be safe than charged $300 for the phone (that's their fee if it's "damaged")
And it seems to have done the trick, thank you 
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03-26-2008, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mizditz101
Mmk thank you. That was my next guess lol.
I know that there's like a 99.99% chance that they wont notice..
But stranger things HAVE happened. They weren't going to replace my Razr on verizon because I had edited firmware... The guy at the store was nice though and said "Go home fix it, come back, I didn't see it" so I did get it replaced... But like I said, I'd rather be safe than charged $300 for the phone (that's their fee if it's "damaged")
And it seems to have done the trick, thank you 
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 ... mental note for next time. Make a backup copy of BlackBerry.alx (its what I do every time as I sometimes upgrade other peoples HHs on my machine).
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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03-26-2008, 05:37 PM
Lol, I had had that mental note.. but at the time I was like.. Nahhh I'll never need it again!
Goes to show that when you say that, you're usually not right :P
I even decided with the new phone just because I can to install the 4.2.1.109 instead of 108 :P hhehehehe
-edit-
It pretty much told me it doesn't want a rogers OS... haha yay for that 507 error...
Seems like a session with jl_cmdr is in order!
Last edited by mizditz101 : 03-26-2008 at 06:37 PM.
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03-26-2008, 07:01 PM
If you have 507 already, then JL_Cmder won't do any good. Just reload the OS again.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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03-26-2008, 07:31 PM
I did lol..
I downloaded it anyway though, because I'm sure at some point I'll use it :P
take 2 at installing rogers software!!
-offically upgraded to a storm!-
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03-27-2008, 06:29 PM
Thanks for the great tip. I was able to free around 16-17MBMB.
One question how do I get rid og Google Talk ?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-27-2008, 11:44 PM
How can I tell how much memory I have free'd up?
And it's not been said (I hope) but after doing all the steps, updating, and unplugging...my phone was at the "hour glass" screen for about 15 minutes. I thought I broke it, then it finally turned on and all is well. So for the newbies (such as myself), give it at least 15-20 minutes after the process before getting worried.
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03-28-2008, 12:15 PM
Thanks for such a great "how to" JC!!
Followed all of the step and no problems.. freed up to about 30mb..
1 question though.. after I followed all of the step.. I had to re-activate my BES and had to make some "setup" changes...
In the Application loader I did say to back-up... did this cause it?
Or will I need to re-activate my BES everything I play around with this?
Thanks again!!
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03-28-2008, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MrKyoo
You edited your Blackberry.alx file wrong. Replace it with the original .alx file or go back to step #4 again to find your mistake.
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I got the same thing and went back to step 4 but have no idea what to do to fix it... I tried saving it over again as diff file types etc... I really dont know how to fix it.. any help would be appreciated. thanks
Shon
Edit: I also dont know where to find the original blackberry.alx or what I did wrong with it...
Last edited by spsands : 03-28-2008 at 03:44 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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03-28-2008, 05:42 PM
John,
I just got my 8830 last week and it seems as though Verizon is keeping the additional themes from being installed into their 8830. I did everything (at least I think so and did them several times) listed and did free up space, but no additional themes were transferred. The only themes listed were the default and the Verizon Zen themes.
In trying to figure out what is happening, I renamed the VZ zen them to a bogus file name, then I renamed the TMO 100 theme (net_rim_theme_100_320x240_b.cod ) to the original VZ theme (net_rim_theme_105_zen_320x240_b.cod) and ran apploader again, this time it said there were changes available and updated the BB. The VZ theme was gone and the new TMO theme was available. When I looked at the modules that were going to be updated the TMO file name was listed instead of the VX name. This seems to be the only way I can get anything different loaded.
Was anyone else with the VZ 8830 able to get any additional themes loaded the way they were expected to be loaded?
Thanks
I tried with bot 4.2 & 4.3 desktop software and used the Bell OS software that is listed elsewhere in the forums.
Last edited by 10ACTony : 03-28-2008 at 05:45 PM.
Reason: Added version info
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03-28-2008, 05:45 PM
Does anybody know how to make the Tmo MyFaves app work on other carriers....i saw it said it loads it when you remove the vendor= part but when i went to the Tmo themes the app wasn't there. Thanks.
And Great guide by the way.
VERY helpful!!!
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VZW 8830 What else can I do to free up memory -
03-28-2008, 08:56 PM
John, thanks for your helpful guide. I am at the point however that I am wondering what else I can do beyond whats laid out in your guide. I don't necessarily wan't to remove VAD but I am running about 15mb free with the apps I have installed, I would like a few more MB to be safe. Do you or anyone else have any suggestions of other COD's to delete. Figure I have done everything on the guide besides delete VAD.
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03-29-2008, 05:04 AM
Two more questions. 1) Is there a way to add folder icons without having the media cod? 2) If I delete the qualcomm tones cod is there a resource online that has those tones so that I can put them on my sd card?
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03-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Very Nice Thanks
HawkStyles.com 
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BBF Moderator
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03-29-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spsands
I got the same thing and went back to step 4 but have no idea what to do to fix it... I tried saving it over again as diff file types etc... I really dont know how to fix it.. any help would be appreciated. thanks
Shon
Edit: I also dont know where to find the original blackberry.alx or what I did wrong with it...
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Install the OS on to your computer again. That will fix that error message.
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BBF Moderator
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03-29-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AW11ERIC
How can I tell how much memory I have free'd up?.......
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ALT + EACE
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BBF Moderator
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03-29-2008, 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwilcox09
Does anybody know how to make the Tmo MyFaves app work on other carriers....i saw it said it loads it when you remove the vendor= part but when i went to the Tmo themes the app wasn't there. Thanks.
And Great guide by the way.
VERY helpful!!!
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Not possible.
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BBF Moderator
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03-29-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by copperlab
Two more questions. 1) Is there a way to add folder icons without having the media cod? 2) If I delete the qualcomm tones cod is there a resource online that has those tones so that I can put them on my sd card?
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No, and no. Sorry.
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03-29-2008, 01:03 PM
If you don't have TMobile and MyFaves, then I'd say remove the myfaves .cod's as they are wasting space.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-29-2008, 08:09 PM
Here is an odd problem... 2 8100's, 2 seperate computers (one desktop, one laptop) running Desktop Manager, deleted the .cod files, vendor, etc., that I wanted to get rid of on both machines. Plug in one of the 8100's to the desktop and all works as its supposed to (removes unrecognized cod's). Plug it into the laptop and it says that modules are ready to update and wants to put them back on the BlackBerry. I even went as far as to delete the cod's on the laptop and it still puts them back on the phone when installing a new app... Where is it hiding the cod's to reinstall them?? I only have one version OS installed. Same OS and Same DM versions on both machines. So where are the mystery ghost files hiding. The only difference in this whole equation is the laptop (which is the one giving me the prob) is running Vista while the other, XP. Thanks in advance!
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03-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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03-29-2008, 11:48 PM
you are world famous JC!
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03-29-2008, 11:53 PM
Not me, just my post. 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-30-2008, 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotGadgets
Here is an odd problem... 2 8100's, 2 seperate computers (one desktop, one laptop) running Desktop Manager, deleted the .cod files, vendor, etc., that I wanted to get rid of on both machines. Plug in one of the 8100's to the desktop and all works as its supposed to (removes unrecognized cod's). Plug it into the laptop and it says that modules are ready to update and wants to put them back on the BlackBerry. I even went as far as to delete the cod's on the laptop and it still puts them back on the phone when installing a new app... Where is it hiding the cod's to reinstall them?? I only have one version OS installed. Same OS and Same DM versions on both machines. So where are the mystery ghost files hiding. The only difference in this whole equation is the laptop (which is the one giving me the prob) is running Vista while the other, XP. Thanks in advance!
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Nevermind, fixed it. They stayed behind as hidden files for some reason after I deleted them?? Maybe a quirk with Vista or my particular setup. Made the files visible, then deleted them, problem solved. Hope this helps anyone with a similar issue.
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03-30-2008, 12:33 AM
Glad you figured it out. I don't use Vista and hadn't had anything like that happen so didn't know how to answer your question.
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03-30-2008, 04:41 AM
Thanks so much JC, Im new comer!

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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-30-2008, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MrKyoo
ALT + EACE
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Thanks. That's actually really hard to type, my thumbs must be too big.
61MB total; 35 of which are free. I need more! :D
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03-30-2008, 11:57 AM
I tried to do this to free up memory, but my fault was that instead of deleting the VENDOR ID code, I deleted the entire block for each one.
Once realizing this a little too late (I had begun looking for what I did wrong because my Zen theme was gone), I basically reinstalled the software.
Now attempting to do it all over again, when I run app loader I don't see the check boxes for the Core Apps, Attachment Service, etc. I only see the ones for my 3rd party apps.
How could I go about redoing this? I only meant to keep the TM Zen theme. :(
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03-30-2008, 12:05 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
Delete the vendor.xml file again. Its located in C:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
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can I remove all the Non English files -
03-30-2008, 04:15 PM
Do those files ( all the non-en version) actually being loaded up into the BB system?
and IF they do, Can I remove all the non-English version files without reducing the overall performance?
For examples:
( note: ?? is everything other than en, with en equal to English)
net_rim_bb_helps_gprs_c_gps_??
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_??
net_rim_bb_ldap_resource_??
net_rim_bb_qm_peer_resource_??
net_rim_bb_resource_??
net_rim_bb_secureemail_help_??
net_rim_bbapi_pim_res_??
net_rim_crypto_resource_??
net_rim_ecmascript_resource_??
net_rim_mds_runtime_resource_??
net_rim_platform_im_resource_??
net_rim_platform_resource_??
net_rim_platformapps_resource_??
net_rim_runtime_resource_??
net_rim_mds_secureemail_resource_??
net_rim_tid_dynamic_ling_data_??
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BBF Moderator
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03-30-2008, 05:24 PM
Welcome to the forums.
The non-English .cod's are not loaded to the device unless you install other language support while in Desktop Manager.
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03-30-2008, 08:28 PM
i've been meaning to post this for a very long time now....John Clark....you are my hero!!!!
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03-31-2008, 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
Welcome to the forums.
The non-English .cod's are not loaded to the device unless you install other language support while in Desktop Manager.
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got it
Thanks John
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03-31-2008, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
Delete the vendor.xml file again. Its located in C:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
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Just had to follow the instructions all over. I did delete the vendor file before but I guess something else wasn't in step.
41 mb free w/ several apps installed. Good stuff!
Thanks, JC! You've helped a lot!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-31-2008, 05:30 AM
Great post! Now I understand why I don't have bbmaps on my new AT&T curve too!
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