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Default 01-05-2008, 02:43 PM

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It seems that taking out the spell checker would also liberate some memory. Is this possible, or is it too deeply embedded?

You probably could remove spell checker. However, I haven't tried it since I do use it. The automatic check before sending an email I find quite useful, actually. It's caught many a typo in my emails.

I take no responsibility if you toast your BB by removing something that shouldn't be removed, though!
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 02:51 PM

This post takes into account removing the largest unnecessary .cod files that get loaded to the device. If you want to see what's taking up the most memory on your device, OS wise, just go into your java folder and sort the files by size (just click on the size lable at the top of the list.) You'll see the jave files sorted by size. There may be other .cod's you can remove, like voicenotes and search, etc., but you won't gain much by removing them as they are at the bottom of the list size-wise. You can likely remove them but since there can always be adverse effects when removing files, I'm not sure the gain is worth the risk. Just my opinion.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 02:55 PM

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You probably could remove spell checker. However, I haven't tried it since I do use it. The automatic check before sending an email I find quite useful, actually. It's caught many a typo in my emails.

I take no responsibility if you toast your BB by removing something that shouldn't be removed, though!
I'll leave it alone for now. I'm still deciding whether I'm going to keep this thing, and I don't seem to be having memory issues. But I am grateful for being able to throw all those wallpapers overboard, along with voice dialing.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 04:58 PM

What's app error 523? Then it has option to reset.

Everything works fine, then out of no where error 523 comes up.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 05:40 PM

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Thanks, I figured it out.

I also got some extra things on my Pearl.

I have 3 new icons on my main menu: change wallpaper, device info, and change date and time.







I have almost 23MB of free space.


Im messing with more things as we speak, I don't need a lot of the stuff so that's why im deleting things.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 09:24 PM

i have about the same memory free, but dont have those 3 icons listed even under the VZW theme.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 09:48 PM

Deleting stuff I have 25 mbs free, with 4 apps installed.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 11:03 PM

Man I don't come even close to having that much free memory. I must have too many apps installed or too many texts and emails.

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Default 01-05-2008, 11:29 PM

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i have about the same memory free, but dont have those 3 icons listed even under the VZW theme.
I have it on all my themes, not just the Verizon theme.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 11:30 PM

I setup a batchfile that copies the .cod's to a different folder and then deletes them. That way I don't have to manually do it every time I download a new a new OS.
   
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Default 01-06-2008, 12:49 AM

Here is my blackberry.alx file that I edited and removed some stuff. It adds the 3 new icons.

Backup your old blackberry.alx file before using this one.

Rename from .txt to .alx, then install in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files

The run apploader in DM and hit next, it should install. :2thumbs:

DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any damage you cause to your BB, replace at your own risk.`This one is specific to the Alltel OS, I tried it on other OS and it worked.

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Default 01-06-2008, 03:40 AM

Oh my lanta, what has come over me? I have freed up more space almost 28MB now. I will make it to 30MB by tomorrow, I know I can

   
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Default 01-06-2008, 05:22 AM

Wow, what a great posting John!
I'm new to BB so forgive me if I missed something in your post, but how do I remove (i.e Wallpaper) after everything was installed?
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Default 01-07-2008, 11:51 PM

You can remove later by doing the exact same thing. simply remove the .cod from the java folder and then plug in the device, run apploader all the way through to the end. The module (.cod file) will be removed when it's not recognized.
   
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Default 01-07-2008, 11:53 PM

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Oh my lanta, what has come over me? I have freed up more space almost 28MB now. I will make it to 30MB by tomorrow, I know I can


I have a bout 28MB free on my device as well. However, this was never a goal to see how many apps I could remove from the device and still have it function. The goal was to remove the big items that are not used. If you use them or want them, by all means, keep them.

Freeing up all this memory doesn't guarantee you won't lose call logs and emails but it will take the device a little longer to get to that point.
   
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Default 01-08-2008, 06:37 AM

Really Tricky but i guess i can do that!! Thanks
   
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Thumbs up 01-08-2008, 11:50 PM

Finally got around to doing this, great tips, Thanks!

I'm only up to around 18mb free, but looking for other things I can get rid of...

I do have a question- I removed VAD per the instructions, but I can still access the status screen in options with no problems. Did I miss something?

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Default 01-12-2008, 07:41 PM

It's the Options >About screen that you can't access.
   
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Default 01-12-2008, 08:15 PM

Odd, on my 8300 i removed VAD and PTT and can still access the about screen.
   
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Default 01-12-2008, 08:20 PM

That's an OS 4.3 issue where the About screen won't come up.
   
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Default 01-12-2008, 08:37 PM

Ah, ill have to test with the 8120.
   
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Default 01-13-2008, 09:33 AM

Just did this process - thanks so much, John Clark! I now have over 27 megs free (I kept the BB Messenger, AIM and Google Chat, but got rid of everything else). Awesome!
   
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Default 01-18-2008, 11:59 PM

Can someone helpme with step #5.. ?

I followered everything but after I run AppLoader I still have the preloaded pics/ringtones..Any idea why..?
   
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Default 01-19-2008, 12:06 AM

You had to have missed a step in there somewhere. Go back and go through each step and make sure you didn't miss anything.
   
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yeah, I just did it again and same thing.. :(
   
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Default 01-19-2008, 12:16 AM

Are you going all the way through the Application loader until it says Finished?
   
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Are you going all the way through the Application loader until it says Finished?
yes, off course..

At the end it says, no files needed to be removed or sumthin like that.
   
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Default 01-19-2008, 12:58 AM

Make sure vendor.xml is deleted.

make sure the files you are moving are from the proper OS folder. The OS version folder should match the OS on your device.

Make sure you are moving the files and not copying the files.
   
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Make sure vendor.xml is deleted.

make sure the files you are moving are from the proper OS folder. The OS version folder should match the OS on your device.

Make sure you are moving the files and not copying the files.
aghhhh, got it!

vendor file wasn't deleted thanks man..
   
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ty u john i followed the step and i now have 28mb ty ty
   
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Default 01-21-2008, 09:43 AM

The instructions seem simple enough, but for a new guy with little experience doing this sort of thing, what are the chances that I will destroy my pearl?
   
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Default 01-21-2008, 09:49 AM

There is little chance you will destroy it, unless you hammer it with a brick, with is not in the instruction list

John's instructions are fairly foolproof and specific as to what to do. Following the instructions exactly as written lessen your chances of any problems. John Clark is an aircraft pilot... he is, shall we say, sorta used to following checklists to the 't', and his instructions on this forum normally follow that high degree of exactness.

However, if you were to freeze it or not succeed in rebooting, there are wipe and restore applications for that purpose.

As always, backup your current device before doing any OS adjustments, upgrades or reloads.

And, always at your own risk (of course, you've got 150,000+ members here to back you up if you need assistance).

Good luck!

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Default 01-21-2008, 09:56 AM

Thanks, I think that I will go for it. Before I saw this post I was wondering how to get rid of applications such as push to talk, which as I'm sure you are aware, AT&T wants even more money for me to use.
   
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Default 01-21-2008, 01:01 PM

I followed the directions (which were great, by the way) and everything is working well. I just have one question. When removing the pre-installed wallpapers, are these the pre-installed pictures? I removed net_rim_bb_media_240x260_b.cod and the pictures and different folder icons are still there. I tried removing my battery to reset my pearl to see if that would work, with no luck. Any suggestions, or am I looking in the wrong area?
   
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Default 01-21-2008, 04:07 PM

I saw a bunch of files that i'm unsure about...can anyone tell me if i need them or I can delete?

net_rim_bb_medialoader_video_83xx_320x240.cod (largest file 2.5mb)
net_rim_cldc.cod
net_rim_tid_dynamic_ling_data_german_35k_2.cod (got a bunch of these for difference languages...)
   
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Default 01-21-2008, 04:15 PM

You can choose not to install those in Application Loader. There's no need to delete them from the java folder.

DO NOT DELETE cldc.cod
   
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Talking Yay! - 01-21-2008, 10:44 PM

Thanx JC,

I've been wondering on how to get my OS on the computer and freeing up those locked wallpapers and PTT. Doing that gave me 10Mbs free memory! Totaling 28MB free now. AWESOME!!


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Default 01-21-2008, 11:06 PM

As simple and easy to follow as John's instructions are it's way more complicated and difficult sounding/reading then the process actually was

I started off with ~19 megs free.

First I opened the media application and changed "reserved pictures memory" to 0M and freed up ~1+meg.

Next under settings/advanced/applications I deleted the sample video for another ~2+ megs.

Now I had around 23megs free.

I already had Desktop manager installed so I installed the OS to the Desktop Manager per John's instructions. (Didn't do the OS install at first and spent about 15 minutes wasting my time looking around the DM software not finding what I needed). After loading the OS it was as simple as unchecking all of the extra languages and removing Bb Maps and after all was said and done I now have 35+ megs free, with Pipes, Google Maps,Opera Mini, BBWeather, Berry411, uNyverse, and a 400k Theme installed. I'm thinking I should alsp delete the Help application too but I'm happy with my free space so far.

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Talking 01-22-2008, 11:50 AM

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Thanks, I figured it out.

I also got some extra things on my Pearl.

I have 3 new icons on my main menu: change wallpaper, device info, and change date and time.

---CUT PICS---

Im messing with more things as we speak, I don't need a lot of the stuff so that's why im deleting things.
I this the verizon theme? can someone post the .cod file to install this theme also on a Italian 8100 TIM Brand? The file should be something like "net_rim_theme_100_240x260_b.cod"

Can someone help?

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