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05-21-2008, 12:09 PM
You'll need to load the 8310 OS to your PC and edit those files just as you did the files for your 8330 OS.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-21-2008, 12:14 PM
So I Can Just Load The Os For Her Phone Under My Profile, Edit Those Files And Plug It In With No Problems, No Confusions?
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BBF Moderator
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05-21-2008, 12:20 PM
When you say "profile" do you mean email profile? It depends on how each of your BB's are setup. It can screw up your email or her email depending on how it's setup (BES/BIS/Redirector.) I usually go into the settings for Desktop Manager and have it prompt me for the profile to use. Then when I plug in a BB other than mine I just cancel out of the profile prompt when it comes up and it doesn't affect email delivery.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-21-2008, 12:28 PM
Good Idea, I Meant Windows User Profile. I Will Just Create Her A Login To Keep Her From Making Any Mistakes And Do It From There
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BBF Moderator
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05-21-2008, 12:31 PM
I only have one Windows login for everything. As long as you installed DM to be used "by anyone who uses this computer" you should be fine with another Windows login.
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05-21-2008, 06:13 PM
so now, my new Sprint Curve 8330 has 51576612 Bytes free.. 49.2 MBs free out of a total 79.75 MBs.
Not bad at all...
The most I got my 8130 Pearl to was roughly 22MBs.
956 & 957 > 7103 > 8830 > Pearl 8130 > Currently Curve 8330
And a bunch of failed Treos and WinMo HTC phones along the way.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Just did memory cleaning.. -
05-21-2008, 10:50 PM
I would like to say thanks to you JohnC for this as I followed your instructions and worked great. Looks hard with all the text but when I started it only took me 10-15 minutes to do the edits and moving and reading to make sure I did it correctly.. Booted back up and I went from 11.2Mb to 18.8Mb.
Awesome job for ease of instructions.
I will be returning to this site from now on to find out more tips and tricks and information.
Jon
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05-25-2008, 12:55 PM
OK
i was shy about this endevour, but since i had 5mb and wanted another 3rd party app, what the heck...
so i gained a little space: 7mb (yea, after battery pull) hmmm. the sprint theme and preloaded pics really don't add up to much. my drug guide app requires 5.27 MB of memory
i could possibly toss VAD, sprint nav, maybe Gmail and Gsearch? weird to be struggling with memory so soon after purchase (one week). i think these apps are only in the 200-700kb range so IMO the BB just comes weak in it's memory offering.
i'll keep researching... 
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BBF Moderator
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05-25-2008, 01:29 PM
The 8130 uses a little more memory. However, I just had an 8130 in my hand from Verizon (belongs to a relative) and it had 11Mb of space on it without doing anything to it. I removed a few things like the preloaded video and moved pics to a media card and then even added a few vendor themes to it and still had 12Mb free on it, without removing VAD. The 8130 isn't really the device for using an app like the drug guide that requires over 5Mb of memory. I would look into the 8330 which came out recently. It has 96Mb of memory and using this procedure on it will give you plenty of room for your drug app and other apps.
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05-25-2008, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
The 8130 uses a little more memory. However, I just had an 8130 in my hand from Verizon (belongs to a relative) and it had 11Mb of space on it without doing anything to it. I removed a few things like the preloaded video and moved pics to a media card and then even added a few vendor themes to it and still had 12Mb free on it, without removing VAD. The 8130 isn't really the device for using an app like the drug guide that requires over 5Mb of memory. I would look into the 8330 which came out recently. It has 96Mb of memory and using this procedure on it will give you plenty of room for your drug app and other apps.
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i love my little Pearl
but if i am going big, i might as well go Bold
have to wait and see how the rest of the year rolls ...
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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05-25-2008, 07:20 PM
Using John's procedure to free up memory netted me 22mb free on my 8130. I kept the VAD but got rid of all the language files. Actually, if you remove exactly the files mentioned in the write-up, including the PTT files and leave the VAd files you will get 20mb or so clear.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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05-26-2008, 01:53 AM
OK, dumb question. For step #4 it says use text editor of your choice. What is a text editor and what is recommended for opening that file mentioned? Thanks for the help
Jennifer
Be Calm and Tranquil in Your Pursuit of the Finest Things
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BBF Moderator
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05-26-2008, 01:55 AM
I just use NotePad.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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05-26-2008, 09:17 PM
I have a 8120 and was going to try this since I keep getting everything deleted. The version I have is 4.3.0.91 When I go to the BB Desktop software should I do v4.3 b25 WITH Media Mgr or v4.3 b25 WITHOUT Media Mgr?
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05-26-2008, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Anything to help a good friend!
These are the two .cod's I've found in the GSM OS's.
net_rim_bb_media_tunebundles_sonicnetworks.cod
net_rim_bb_profiles_tunes_tunebundles_tunes8700g.c od
The names of the tunebundle files may vary on CDMA devices.
Removing these will leave you with no notifiers, as well....like for email, sms, etc.
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Does removing these 2 , remove things like vibration , or just the preinstalled tones ?
Excellent guide !!
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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05-26-2008, 11:28 PM
Once again your guide worked well after upgrade. 
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
- Ken Olson, 1977
( And we now wear them! Blackberries are computers too! )
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BBF Moderator
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05-27-2008, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by utvolsfan007
Does removing these 2 , remove things like vibration , or just the preinstalled tones ?
Excellent guide !!
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It just removes the preinstalled tunes. However, I've seen issues where profiles couldn't be edited, too. I don't recommend removing the preinstalled tunes but you can give it a shot if you really want to.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-27-2008, 10:32 PM
thanks a lot John, really free'd up some space for me. Got tired of losing all my messages and emails.
Previous File Free: 6846490 Bytes
Current File Free:11681198 Bytes
Both are with the same apps runing. (MemoryUp, BatteryBooster, BlackBerry Alerts, BBWeather, BBSmart Email Viewer, BBSmart Alarms Pro, JiveTalk, and any normal runnign startup apps.)

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05-28-2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by logicbomb.de
I've removed all the vendor codes from blackberry.alx and platform.alx, but LBS,alx has no vendor codes in it at all, what gives?
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Having the same issue. I am running OS 4.5.0.37 and the LBS file for OS 4.5 doesn't seem to have the vendor codes in it, however blackberry maps still doesn't show up. Any ideas?
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05-28-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AUtigers350z
Having the same issue. I am running OS 4.5.0.37 and the LBS file for OS 4.5 doesn't seem to have the vendor codes in it, however blackberry maps still doesn't show up. Any ideas?
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uninstall the beta software and run a stable version.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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05-28-2008, 09:37 AM
I installed the BB Desktop v4.3 WITH Media Mgr for the Pearl 8120, and when it says to go to "shared folder" to do something with that OS my program isnt there, only my old 8700c program is, so I guess its not the right one. Is that the correct one I'm supposed to dl for the Pearl 8120? Or is there another version I'm supposed to be downloading?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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05-28-2008, 11:50 AM
heres a question. do i need to removed them and create a removed modules folder on all pcs i sync with?
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BBF Moderator
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05-28-2008, 12:15 PM
Only if you use application loader on the other pc's.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Veeeerrrry Useful Post For My Push-it-to-the-limit style! -
05-28-2008, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
I start worrying about anything below 15.
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I looked and found I've only got about 5.9 MB free...
Running beta OS 4.5 (kids, do not try at home...professional driver on a closed course!)
Running lots of third party apps, keep trying new ones...
I already knew about deleting unused apps and unlocking vendor files, but this will help me free up memory and avoid crashes.  Documents to go eats up a lot of memory!
Thanks, John!
Hit List: 8700, 7130, 8100, 8800, 8310, 8110
Can he be stopped??? Currently rocking 4.5 at my own risk...
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05-28-2008, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dawg
uninstall the beta software and run a stable version.
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Nah .37 works great for me. I've had 0 issues so far. I did go back to 4.2 for a while after the original .10 and .18 though as I was having problems not getting BB messages, losing service, etc. Guess if there's no way to get BB maps with 4.5 then I'll just live with Google Maps for now.
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need help with memory and download managers -
05-28-2008, 04:03 PM
After reading all the great posts on memory leaks, I downloaded the specific download manager for my 8330 curve.this was an attempt to delete files not accessible under the generic download manager (ver 4.3) which works flawlessly.problem is,with the 8330 download manager, i get the infamous "device not found" error message,despite reboots,unplugs etc.
any help on this fix appreciated
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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05-29-2008, 07:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumpman23
I installed the BB Desktop v4.3 WITH Media Mgr for the Pearl 8120, and when it says to go to "shared folder" to do something with that OS my program isnt there, only my old 8700c program is, so I guess its not the right one. Is that the correct one I'm supposed to dl for the Pearl 8120? Or is there another version I'm supposed to be downloading?
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anyone?
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05-29-2008, 07:59 AM
Yes, you are supposed to download the OS to your PC.
The Desktop Manager v4.3 is not the handheld OS.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-29-2008, 12:47 PM
I'm stuck on step 6. The only apps listed in app loader are BBalerts and Berryacode. I see nothing else and it does not add/remove any alx files. When I click finish it says there is nothing to be done.
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BBF Moderator
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05-29-2008, 12:53 PM
You missed the step where you install the OS to your computer (step 4, I think) or you didn't delete the vendor.xml file.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Well I had to install the OS to my computer to edit it right? And I did not see a vendor.xml, only vendor "html safari file". I deleted it.
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BBF Moderator
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05-29-2008, 01:31 PM
I have no idea what files you edited. I don't know what "html safari file" you're referring to but that's not the file to delete.
You missed a step in there somewhere. The steps are:
1. Install Desktop Manger
2. Install Matching OS (look on your BB in Options >About to find your OS and install that OS in ADDITION to Desktop Manager.)
3. Make the edits
4. Run Desktop Manager with BB plugged in and open application loader. You should see a list of checkboxes. If nothing is there then the OS is not installed or the vendor.xml file is not deleted.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-29-2008, 03:46 PM
Here is a screenshot.
I had to have the OS installed in order to edit the files, so I had to have done that right. When I open DM I get a message saying "no applications configured for synchronization" which I figured was normal since I don't have Outlook and I can't sync my contacts. So I click OK on that and head over to the application loader in DM and the only two apps that appear are berryacode and bbalerts.
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BBF Moderator
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05-29-2008, 03:55 PM
Your computer must have ".xml" files associated with Safari and it's not showing the extension either. You can to go Tools at the top of that screen and go into Folder Options and "show filename extensions." You can delete the vendor file you have highlighted there.
Please tell me what OS version is installed on your BB. On your BB go to Options >About and post the version.
Then go to Desktop Manager and go to Help >About. Look in the Device Software tab and tell me what versions are listed.
Last edited by John Clark : 05-29-2008 at 03:56 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-29-2008, 03:59 PM
BB: 4.2.2.170 (312)
DM shows: 4.2.2.166
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BBF Moderator
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05-29-2008, 04:01 PM
You didn't install the proper OS. You have to install 4.2.2.170 that is installed on your BB. That's why nothing shows up. Install the .170 version and make all your edits again.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-29-2008, 08:15 PM
How do you edit the BlackBerry.alx file? I see the file but I cannot open it.
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05-29-2008, 08:17 PM
Right click on the file and select "Open with." Then select "NotePad."
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-29-2008, 10:04 PM
Thanks, I finished the process and gained some additional space.
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05-29-2008, 10:13 PM
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