Hello,

I am attempting to complete this process; however, the desktop manager is giving me trouble when connecting my device. I dl'd and installed the OS
(4.3) to my PC. When I attempted a backup, DM would not recognize my
8330. I then uninstalled and reinstalled DM and it recognized my device but I could not find the "shared folder". I had to reinstall the OS to my PC and was able to complete the steps that are outlined but when I connected my device the DM would not recognize it. I have tried different cables, rebooted and a battery pull all with no luck. It seems that the installation of the OS is having something to do with this.

Any ideas? Your help is much appreciated!

-JC

Hi,

I've removed all those files (and themes) in page one of this thread but when I run app loader...it tells nothing needs to be done.... it doesn't show a list of things to remove...

Any ideas what im doing wrong?

Thank u

I followed the instructions but did everything from my home computer, and I'm on a BES at work. Now I'm not receiving my work e-mail. What do I do now?

Wow what a great thread. Its been two weeks and my question still has not been answered. Instead of straying off the topic like some other posts in this thread I asked the simple question of after doing all this, why does my BB still lose call logs and sms txts. Pretty relevant to the topic I think.

I think the release of all these new models has caused too many newbies here and downgraded the quality of this community.

The ONLY reason your device loses call logs and sms is due to low memory.

Yes, John, I realize this. I have followed the steps described here and I am still having this issue. I am looking for guidance from the experts here. What else can i be doing to resolve this?

And I agree with a previous poster, how come this hasn't been resolved yet. It happens to EVERYONE I know with a BlackBerry. The only models that do not have this problem have to be the Sprint Curve and the Storm which come with larger on board memory. But really should the 4.5 OS's fix these issues. And no I am not going to buy an iPhone to resolve this issue.

This guide help me a lot! great walk thru and perfect detail. even tho the numbers were slightly different, i managed to work it out. thanks JC

John, I know that it's been said a bunch of times already, but thanks for the great write-up!

I went thru it step by step, removed a ton of crap that I didn't even realize was on there and got a huge memory jump in the process. I went from 10.3ish Mb to well over 22mb.

As stated previously, Options>About no longer works once you remove VAD, but as advertised, is accessible with alt-EACE.

Thanks again!

John: Thanks for taking the time to do the write up.


I was too chicken to do this with my personal BB, so I borrowed an old AT&T (really Cingular) BB from work and all went well.

As this was my first time through, I was *very* conservative when I removed .cod files from this folder:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.2.1.96_P2.3.0.79\Java

Now that I am more confident in this process, I went back and moved more .cod files to "Removed Modules" directory.


QUESTION: How do I re-initiate the loading of the OS again? Is there a file somewhere in there which needs modification - so that the Desktop Manager re-initiates the loading?

You don't need to reload the OS. You can add/remove most of the .cod's and then just re-run Application Loader and it will pick up the files that need to be added or removed.

I tried that - but I pushed on "Add/Remove Applications". I am wondering if I need to try "Update Applications"?

(Following up on my own response)

John is right. I didn't click "next" on the Application Loader screen. It worked fine. Thanks (& sorry for the confusion I may have caused).

Great post John ...Now I just hope I can find the time to read through it all and use it

Great thread John. I can see BBMaps in my Applications but there is no icon, I am not sure how to get past service book to get the BBMaps in the current version. I was able to get the maps and even get directions in my previous version, and I just upgraded to 4.5 version of app.

Instead of clearing up your memory yourself you should have just called the Carrier Advanced Tech support. They have all the instructions. You dont have to do all that.

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!


Now that's a good one!!! Most carriers have no idea and send people replacement devices. I've seen it hundreds of times.

In reference to #4 edit BB .alx
There is no "shared" folder in the research in motion folder. What did i do wrong?
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\....

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Looks like someone missed a step and missed the note avove in red.

Just saw that. thanks.

John,
I need your help as I have installed new OS 9000M_PBr4.6.0_rel356_PL4.0.0.181_A4.6.0.210 and after deleting vendor.xml, my apploader is not recognising the new OS. My service provider is etisalat in UAE. Does it restrict updating of device software. Currently I am on .162

please thro some light on how to upgrade.

Try taking a look here:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-xml-file.html

LOL

very detailed, so strong...

Hey there, I followed all the steps perfectly. At the end, i completed the application loader, which said nothing was changed. And my BB still has all the themes, and the VAD icon, it even put the facebook icon back on my screen after i had deleted it from the service book.
What am i doing wrong?

Thanks
Linz

Ok, I'm the dumb guy here. I did all this on my Pearl 8130. It origanally booted with some strange characters and a strange screen. Now it boots to "App Error 205". My laptop no longer recognizes it as a BB. I can't restore or reload the OS. I've tried rebooting everything and I can't get the PC to recognize it.

HEEEELP!!

Not sure how/why you got that error but a quick search of the forums finds this post and a couple after that.

Thanks for the great tutorial!
I'm always dropping messages and call lists. Blamed it on my kids for playing with my phone. Problem resolved. I won't tell them it was my fault though!

Followed directions. When launching DM/App Loader, I am not seeing the RM folder...doing something incorrectly?

Thanks!

Sorry all!

Utilized the loader.exe function (not DM) and removed the unwanted cods/modules...carry on with life!

Hi John,
Thanks so much for your thread. It really helped a lot. One quick question, is it okay that there is a vendor.xml file in the C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader folder? I noticed it there and wasn't sure whether to delete it or not. After all your instructions, everything works great and seems faster. Last thing, when you say we can remove the unwanted themes, applications, etc... do you mean to literally delete them or move them to the Removed Modules folder? Just checking.. thanks!

I just followed the processed and cleared most of the junk out, yet i still can't manage to get rif of the preinstalled apps to downlad such as flickr, myspace, yahoo messenger, and google messenger.

Besides that amazing thread

net_rim_bb_medialoader_320x240_b.cod seems to have disappeared in OS: 8830 4.5.0.177/4.5.0.127 (Multilanguage) It have been replaced with net_rim_bb_medialoader_folders_320x240_b.cod.

Looks like that "appendix" is gone now. :D

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Wallpapers were removed in OS 4.5. The folders used to be included in the wallpaper cod. They wanted to keep the folders so they put them into their own cod.

Great thread and very helpful. Thanks mate!

I have been scouring this forum and the web to no avail.... if anyone has information, please update!

What a great introduction to the wonderful world of BB.

Thankyou

Ha! I just got my 8900 and there is no need for this! It's a must for any of the older devices, though.

Welcome to BBF!

thanks for share

The guide was good, but my problem is still adding my individual email act. My blackberry (8320) doesn't come with the option of adding or creating an individual account. any helpful ideas?

Okay first off I am new to the blackberry world, had for a month and a half. Ok I went an downloaded the OS from my carrier, backed up the phone, but I cant the file folders, I cant find the apploader file or the shared app folder. I went thru, help!!!. I found all the other BB folders, but cant find those