You have to create it. and you would not see it with DM or apploader.

Agreed!

Thanks for all of this JC, I've saved a lot of BlackBerry souls b/c of your amazing write-up!

I did this and all it did was make my screen all weird..it didn't show a background picture or anything... weird...
I got it all back by taking it out of the folder and running the app loader...but it scared me a lot!!

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That happens when you remove the theme currently in use. Change to a theme you aren't going to remove. Then do the process. Or when it shows the white screen with the black icons just go in and choose a theme. The black/white is just no theme in use.

great, thanks i finally found this.

thank you!

how do i check to see how much memory i have available?

Press Alt + Right Shift + H.

Also, Options >Status.

good tutorial WORKS FOR ME!

I have not installed the new device software because I learned after calling both T-Mobile and Blackberry that even if I did a backup/restore, it would only backup DATA but NOT the 3rd party apps. Those will get erased if you perform the system update.

Not true. Please stop cross posting.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/carr...ases-apps.html

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Juwaack is correct. The process backs up & restores your 3rd party apps. The only thing you lose during an OS upgrade is some data within your 3rd party apps. All your data and the apps will be restored. You will need to reenter any registration codes for 3rd party apps. You can even make a backup of 3rd party apps. There is a sticky thread in the General Discussion area for that.

I tried to do this on my 8900 and nothing happened. The app loader gave me that "no necessary actions" blurb. It worked on my 8220. any thoughts on what I could be doing wrong?

Thanks Jc!!

Hi all!

I've had these symptons from time to time. Clearing more free space is definitely the way forward!

HOWEVER... (here comes the killer...) I've noticed my Pearl 8100 has been clearing my call logs and SMS inbox EVEN THOUGH I had plenty of space! 21MB! I noticed pretty quickly what it had done, and coincidentally I had only just checked the free space, because I'm doing it regularly now (a precautionary measure). After the device did its neat little trick, I checked again and it said 19MB. What the smeg is going on?

Thank you all very very much in advance!

Alex =)

PS - shall i post this as a new thread?

hi again!

does anyone know how to work out which apps are actually using the memory. something seems to be gobbling up my memory pretty quickly! It went from 20MB to 10MB free in just a couple of days. I did a battery pull reset and it went straight back up to 23MB!

I'd rather not have to do such a reset every couple of days, so how can i find out which apps are the culprits?

thanks,
alex =)

Great guide

John:
Thank you for this informational guide. I used it on my 8310 with no problem (after a bit of scary white screen of death and reloading). Now I have a Bold. I just upgraded to .247. Before I installed the OS, I thought I would remove the sample pics and some themes that are preinstalled. I deleted the _vendor ID "102" from the BlackBerry.alx file. I also deleted any other _vendor ID "xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx" files. Was this the correct thing to do? I thought I found the sample pics folder in medialoader.lib, but apparently that was not it. All I accomplished was removing too many themes. I put all the files back, except for the zen themes. I seem to have replaced everything I need, but along with it came more than I had in my original .167. Nifty as they are, I usually only use one theme--just change the wallpaper. I still have the sample pics. Short of removing anything that looks like it may be that folder and reinstalling them one at a time, I am at a loss as to which files I need to remove.

I did, however, hope that you can tell me which files contain the sample pics. Also, are all the preinstalled ring tones/alarms/alerts/etc. in one file? I would like to use some of them, but remove the rest. If this is not possible, I will just live with them all.

Thank you in advance for reading my rambling letter and for any help you can give me. You and your associates in this forum have taught me much about my bb. I recommend you to any blackberry user I know.

Again, thanks for all you do.

I don't know if its same4 package pictures, but I posted a zip file of preinstalled pictures in this thread. It come from 8830 so it might be different pictures.

any thoughts anyone? i'd really love to get this sorted!

just did another battery pull, and memory went up from 11MB to 21MB.

is there anything i can do so i don't have to keep doing this every few days?

and any ideas why i am sometimes losing data even though i have plenty of free memory?! (see my post above).

thanks all,

alex =)

*cough* I meant I posted pictures zip file at "Get your pictures here!" pinned thread in this subforum.. sorry guys who looked for it here...

This is so ACE. Thank you so very much. My TMO Pearl crapped out, and I just unlocked this At&T Pearl this morning. Now I'll have the TMO Zen theme I love so much, no VAD, and no PTT.

You are THE man!

Just wanted to drop you a quick thanks from some of my co-works here in T-Mobile Blackberry tech support... I used your guide a while back and loved it. (never did get on here and drop you a thank you... so thanks a year late!!)

Well since the launch of BB app world (which is 523k before you play with downloading fun stuffs) most of my co-workers were making strange noises from there little cubicles watching all their texts go bye bye... and although we get phone calls on this issue 100 times a night... every night... hehe... they was an almost collective loss around the pod as to what to get rid of...

I managed to get almost everybody up over 20mb even with all our junk on the devices... and was asked to give you a collective thanks.

only wish i could get myself up there... but I never sit quite so high due to my somewhat pathological need to constantly download junk onto my phone... what can i say i love pandora and shazam and all of that stuff... and 16mb is more then enough for me

i only wish we could use your guide on our calls... although i don't want to think of the scary things that would happen then...

thanks again

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If you at least tell callers why their text messages disappear I'll be happy. I've seen too many people come here after talking to tech support and having their devices exchanged under warranty and then having the same problem.

There is a more permanent fix, though, and maybe you can use this on your calls: the new Curve 8900. I don't even bother with this anymore since I have tons of apps and still over 100MB free.

not to worry i do... take people through the database sizes and show them what is taking up the space and everything... hehe...

and no one should be getting exchanges for it... it specifically says "do not process a handset exchange" in the systems for the issue if they look... sounds like they didn't take the 2 seconds to do a search and deal with the issue... that's kinda crazy and I'm sorry...

it costs T-Mobile $150 for every exchange that comes back "no trouble found" which means there wasn't an issue after either data wipe or app loader... if people are doing those exchanges... they may very well lose there job...

eek... but once again thanks so much... enjoy that 8900... I'm eligible for my upgrade later this month.... yay!... and you're defiantly right the new processor and the on board storage capacity for that phone are amazing... been working on the puddle on the floor here since i first saw it... hehe

thanks again

oh and just a tip for anyone calling tech support... when you call late at night (after 2:00 am EST) you don't get any trainees... and although there aren't as many of of working the phones... we've been there forever... so if you are having bad luck with reps... give us a try late at night... we need something to do anyways... ta ta

Is there an easier, shorter way??

There's MaxMem. I prefer this way because you can see exactly what you're removing.

Can anyone tell me if it is safe to remove these files from the java folder?
They are pretty big and they are similar to the wallpaper .cod that John Clark recommends removing.

net_rim_bb_medialoader_backgrounds_480x320_b.cod (6,698 KB)
net_rim_bb_medialoader_music_480x320_b.cod (2,654 KB)
net_rim_bb_medialoader_sonic_networks_high.cod (2,483 KB)
net_rim_bb_medialoader_sonic_networks_high_2.cod (2,877 KB)

Thanks,
Brian

Won't work with out dimension zen theme. trial by fire, but you can delete the other two dimension themes, just keep zen if you want to use L. I also removed "help" and "password keeper" I'm up to 16mb from 12mb with over 4000 txts. on 4.2 i was running at 21mb free. docs to go is the only other extra app i have.

wow thanks for all the info

Do you happen to know the module for 8220 preloaded ringtones? Im with rogers... if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance

I followed this process and saw the total required for just the 4.5 OS Core system/app files. It was around 35MB for those two thing alone.

I have the following apps installed and I only have 5-6MB of free space only. Would you say that I have too many files or is something else hogging up my memory?

AIM
amAze
BofA mobile app
BB App World
Bloomberg
Documents to go
ESPN Mobile Web
Etrade
FlyCast
Google Maps
Google Talk
Handmark Blackjack
iSTockManager
Kings Chess 2
MidpSSH
Market Simplified
Nobex Radio Companion
Opera Mini
Pandora
Qik
Ride Charge (taxi app)
Shazam
Slacker
Stock Quote Viewer (Microhill)
Texas Hold'em King 2
TheStreet
Viigo
Vlingo
WSJ Mobile Reader
Yahoo! Messenger
YouMail

I have uninstalled things like Password Keeper, brickbreaker.

I have the Curve 8320 from TMobile. It just doesn't seem like this BB has that much memory to begin with. That's the one aspect I like about the iphone. You never have to worry about the memory.

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You have too many apps. You need an 8900. It has enough memory for all the apps you're wanting.

thanks pal, this very helpfull article

i will try this at home

Hi, I performed this tutorial to expand the BB memory (success, thanks!!) and also to get other carrier themes. When looking at the different carrier themes, I didn't see anything for Verizon's theme (105) in my Java directory. My options were 100, 102a, 107, 114, 115, 119, 120_green, 120_today, 125_today, 125_zen, 129 and 204. I kept the 107_zen (O2) and the 125_zen (Rogers) as well as all the BB dimension themes and moved the others to the Removed Modules folder. What I'd really like, though, is the Verizon theme that my friend had on his 8330 Curve. Is this possible?

Thanks, and thanks John for a thorough tutorial.

EDIT: Also, how do I install BBMaps with my current OS (4.5.0.110)? The tutorial gave instructions for installing it with OS 4.3 and lower, but that it would require Service Books with anything higher. Can I find this on blackberry.com?

EDIT #2: Found it on blackberry.com. So just want to verify that I should not install BBMaps since it says it isn't supported by AT&T or anything higher than 4.2? Or since I removed the AT&T vendor ID earlier during the tutorial, is this all irrelevant and I *can* install it?

Hi all - new BBF member here and currently on my 4th blackberry. Two problems here, relating to removing sample videos to free up free space. Definitely a very thorough & helpful tutorial here, but haven't seen this issue addressed yet. Hopefully some of the experts here might be able to help!

I've skimmed through this forum (except for pages 2-10, as they were before the Bold was released to AT&T) and have seen many people who were able to remove the sample videos from their devices. I've seen similar success stories on other forums. However, I am unable to remove the videos using any of the methods I have seen. When I go to Options > Advanced > Applications, I do not see the blackberry sample video listed. Likewise on the Blackberry Application loader, I do not see the blackberry sample video listed in the applications list. I definitely do have one of the two sample videos still left. Perhaps I can't see it in the App Loader because I do not have the OS installed on my PC... Help?!

Second issue: I tried using the advice I found on another forum - just delete the video from the media list in the media browser. I tried this with one video, but after removing it (and even after a soft reset) I did not notice a difference in any of the memory levels - application, on board device, nor expansion media card. Would this video still be in a pseudo-trash folder somewhere?

Any help or pointers would be appreciated!

Wow..that is fascinating guide! I will fix my problem..thanks a lot

I have the latest OS for the 8330 4.5.0.138. I updated from 4.5.0.77 with all the files intact, meaning I did not do the optimization first.

Now I want to remove some of the modules that are listed in the tutorial and I cannot.

I uninstalled EVERY OS verison I have, kept the DM though, and then reinstalled the 138 OS to my computer. I deleted vendor, changed the vendorid in the blackberry.alx file, deleted the modules, and tried using both loader.exe and DM but when I do so it says that no further actions are required.

What, if anything, am I doing wrong?

Should I try installing all OS and DM from my computer and deleting all the folders and then doing this all over again. That is really all I can think of, it worked previously, just not with this OS for some reason.

Honestly this problem really comes down to 64MB of memory is just not enough. When the 8100 and even the first few Curves were released, RIM must not have expected the apps to become as popular. Apple took it to a new levek with their App store.

I loved my 8100 and my 8120 but enough was enough. John Clark mentioned above, the only true fix is upgradde to a new BB. Like him, I just upgraded to a 8900 and I havent looked at this thread except that it pops up in my inbox when someone adds to it.

One thing I noticed when I got my new one though. I put Twitterberry on, and I noticed it stores cached data on the device. You can change this to your media card in the Twitterberry settings.