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John Clark · 02:46 PM

You need to download the OS from your carrier and then install it to your PC. You skipped that step.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rim-...tml#post859119

Papagirl · 03-15-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Clark

You need to download the OS from your carrier and then install it to your PC. You skipped that step.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rim-...tml#post859119

The huge file, is that not what i already have when i installed the disk?

BlackBerry Desktop Manager v4.3

So after this is installed on the comp ill be able to find that shared folder??

FF2 · 03-15-2008, 06:50 PM

The disk that comes with the phone is Desktop Manager (DM). BUT you also need to install the actual Operating System (OS) for your particular phone. They are TWO SEPARATE software installs. The numbers add to the confusion since the DM version number and the OS version numbers are in some cases very similar.

The OS can be found on your carrier's website for BB or maybe even the BB website.

When you get the phone OS, you install that to your computer. It then creates the files and folders referenced in this very long thread. Then you go about doing what is referenced in the first message. (not that I have done it).

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

And that is all very clearly outlined in the first post.

Lacey_Underalls · 03-16-2008, 01:55 AM

First off, thank you for the detailed instructions, John! I read through all of the pages in this thread and didn't see this question asked, so: After I've deleted all of the preloaded pictures, is there any way to delete the now-empty "Preloaded Pictures" folder in my Media section? TIA.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Welcome to the forums!

I believe that if you do this after the OS is already loaded to the device that the folder and maybe even the thumbnails will still show on the device. However, if you reload the OS from scratch and go through these steps before loading the OS then the thumbnails will disappear. The Preloaded Pictures folder will still be there no matter what but it should be empty.

Lacey_Underalls · 03-16-2008, 02:32 AM

No problem. The pictures are gone but the empty folder remains.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Ah. That is how my device is, as well.

Papagirl · 03-16-2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FF2

The disk that comes with the phone is Desktop Manager (DM). BUT you also need to install the actual Operating System (OS) for your particular phone. They are TWO SEPARATE software installs. The numbers add to the confusion since the DM version number and the OS version numbers are in some cases very similar.

The OS can be found on your carrier's website for BB or maybe even the BB website.

When you get the phone OS, you install that to your computer. It then creates the files and folders referenced in this very long thread. Then you go about doing what is referenced in the first message. (not that I have done it).

Ok sorry for all the confusion. I guess the numbers looked so simular to me that i thought i was just downloading the same thing, it took so long as well i was getting worried it was what i already had.

Thanks!! (downloading now)

Papagirl · 03-16-2008, 06:17 AM

One more quick question, if you delete the voice dialing and then you choose to use it in the future, is there anyway you can get it back?

Phranc · 03-16-2008, 09:12 AM

Just move the VAD files back into the Java folder and rerun the Application Loader.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Yep. This works for any app that you move into the Removed Modules folder. You can always move it back and then rerun the apploader to put it back on the device.

Josh615 · 03-17-2008, 03:00 AM

Ive done this twice, but I just upgraded the OS in a last ditch effort to fix this resetting problem.

I know what themes I want and dont feel like taking the time to delete all the _vendorID="xxx" files to open up all the themes available. I'll end up just deleting them all anyway. My question is can I skip this step or is it a part of the process to make it all work? I dont want to mess it up.

Papagirl · 03-17-2008, 07:40 AM

Ok so i downloaded the 4.3 OS version from my carrier and it took a long time and then it said that i already had this program installed and asked me if i wanted to "modify it" or "uninstall it" so now im not quite sure what to do... it seems like it was installing everything like roxio media manager and all that...can anyone help me out?

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

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Originally Posted by Josh615

Ive done this twice, but I just upgraded the OS in a last ditch effort to fix this resetting problem.

I know what themes I want and dont feel like taking the time to delete all the _vendorID="xxx" files to open up all the themes available. I'll end up just deleting them all anyway. My question is can I skip this step or is it a part of the process to make it all work? I dont want to mess it up.

You can just remove the vendor tags for the themes you want, if you like.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papagirl

Ok so i downloaded the 4.3 OS version from my carrier and it took a long time and then it said that i already had this program installed and asked me if i wanted to "modify it" or "uninstall it" so now im not quite sure what to do... it seems like it was installing everything like roxio media manager and all that...can anyone help me out?

It sounds like you attempted to download and install Desktop Manager again. You need to download and install the Handheld Operating System file in ADDITION to the Desktop Manager software.

mosabsolum · 03-17-2008, 02:08 PM

2 months ago, I posted a question: How can I transfer a MIDI file from my hard drive to my 8707v trough the Desktop Manager trough the Media Manger trough the USB? Thank you in advance.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...e-telecom.html

Papagirl · 03-17-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

It sounds like you attempted to download and install Desktop Manager again. You need to download and install the Handheld Operating System file in ADDITION to the Desktop Manager software.

Well i went to the link that was given, chose my carrier, and then picked version 4.3 software to download, and thats what started to download..

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

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Originally Posted by Papagirl

Well i went to the link that was given, chose my carrier, and then picked version 4.3 software to download, and thats what started to download..

I'll say it again. DO NOT download Desktop Manager 4.3 again. You are getting nowhere. You need the handheld OS. Until you download and install that you won't be able to do this. When you get to your carrier's download area, be sure and select your device model in the list to download the OS.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosabsolum

2 months ago, I posted a question: How can I transfer a MIDI file from my hard drive to my 8707v trough the Desktop Manager trough the Media Manger trough the USB? Thank you in advance.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...e-telecom.html

If you have OS 4.2 or later on your 8707 then make sure you are running Desktop Manager 4.2 SP2 or later. Plug in the device and run Desktop manager / Media Manager. In the lower right corner you should be able to select your device memory. Just move the file from the top to the bottom to transfer the file. It's fairly intuitive.

Papagirl · 03-17-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

I'll say it again. DO NOT download Desktop Manager 4.3 again. You are getting nowhere. You need the handheld OS. Until you download and install that you won't be able to do this. When you get to your carrier's download area, be sure and select your device model in the list to download the OS.

Success, i have the shared folder now. The problem was on my computer when i was given the drop down of all the programs to download, my computer was not letting me view all the available downloads so the only ones i could see were the top desktop manager programs which i obviously already had. I tried it at my dads house, and i could see all the options! so whenever u told me to download the OS i could not even see that as an option therefore couldnt download it...so im sorry if i caused any trouble but now its all figured out so i can follow the guide finally!

Papagirl · 03-17-2008, 09:39 PM

One question, when you delete the preinstalled wallpapers .cod file, it deleted every wallpaper does it not? is there a way to delete the certain ones you dont like?

strike2tamu · 03-17-2008, 10:56 PM

Thanks a million I cleared 20 mb doing this, great post and info.

RICKO BERRY · 03-17-2008, 11:09 PM

AWSOME// GOOD STUFF MAN// Im A LITTLE SAVY BUT I THINK I CAN MANAGE ALL MY ADJUSTMENTS, i WILL LET U KNOW

jnieves · 03-18-2008, 03:25 AM

Hi:
I did all you said and now my BB is dead. The screen says App Error 523 Reset. What should I do now please HELP!

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papagirl

One question, when you delete the preinstalled wallpapers .cod file, it deleted every wallpaper does it not? is there a way to delete the certain ones you dont like?

No, they are all contained in one .cod and this method just removes .cod files from the BB. It's all or nothing.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

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Originally Posted by jnieves

Hi:
I did all you said and now my BB is dead. The screen says App Error 523 Reset. What should I do now please HELP!

That is usually a 3rd party application causing problems. Plug in the device while the hour glass is spinning and run application Loader and see if you can remove the app you suspect may be causing it. Also, tell me what .cod's you removed.

aapierre · **OS:** 5.0.0.306

ran this as per the instructions in the first post

At first i didn't understand a word that was written but then slowly re read and got to grips with it, good stuff.

what are cod files and alx files ?

i've got the carphone warehouse navigator on my BB curve so got rid of the bb maps cos not needed and mostly not much use anyways.

aapierre · **OS:** 5.0.0.306

ps stop putting such good hints and tips up

i am so bleeding tired with staying up till 1am every night for the last 2 weeks going through the threads.

lol

jnieves · 03-18-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

That is usually a 3rd party application causing problems. Plug in the device while the hour glass is spinning and run application Loader and see if you can remove the app you suspect may be causing it. Also, tell me what .cod's you removed.

Hi:
I just removed the two .cod's listed to remove PTT and the first 4 you listed to remove the voice dialing and I also unchecked the unwanted languages. That's it.
Thanks

jnieves · 03-18-2008, 12:14 PM

AH and now my desktop manager is not responding either!

Papagirl · 03-18-2008, 07:57 PM

So last night i did everything and i went from 19mb to 23mb which is good, i was hoping to get as lucky as some other people and their 34+ megs but thats all good. Well done on the walkthrough!!
Thanks

spsands · **any Mac instructions? -** 03-18-2008, 08:38 PM

It looks like everything that you are doing is with Desktop Manager...

what about us Mac users that want to get rid of the stupid att theme and the locked preloaded pictures.

I was able to delete the sample video without any problem, but the themes and the preloaded pics are annoying.

any advice??

StarsNStraps · 09:26 AM

I don't know which ones I can delete without it effecting my IPHONE theme.
Some help??

net_rim_theme_129_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_icon_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_l_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_125_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_119_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_119_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_120_green_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_120_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_125_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_100_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_102a_icon_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_104_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_105_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_107_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_109_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_114_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_115_240x260_b
com_plazmic_themereader

BTW awesome write up, doubled my free space already.

ALSO... Can I safely delete: net_rim_bb_medialoader_video_81xx_240x260

drstefano · 03:43 PM

Hi, John-
ok, so I got to the folder with the .alx files but couldn't open (or even find) them with wordpad or with Microsoft Works word processor. (I've looked through all the posts and found the ones about not using Notepad.)

Do I need another text editor, or am I doing something wrong?
thanks

update- I tried the Google word processor and got a message, sorry, but they don't currently work with .axl files.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by spsands

It looks like everything that you are doing is with Desktop Manager...

what about us Mac users that want to get rid of the stupid att theme and the locked preloaded pictures.

I was able to delete the sample video without any problem, but the themes and the preloaded pics are annoying.

any advice??

Mac users need to borrow a freinds PC.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsNStraps

I don't know which ones I can delete without it effecting my IPHONE theme.
Some help??

net_rim_theme_129_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_icon_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_l_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_bbdimension_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_125_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_119_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_119_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_120_green_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_120_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_125_today_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_100_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_102a_icon_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_104_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_105_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_107_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_109_zen_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_114_240x260_b
net_rim_theme_115_240x260_b
com_plazmic_themereader

BTW awesome write up, doubled my free space already.

ALSO... Can I safely delete: net_rim_bb_medialoader_video_81xx_240x260

As I describe in the post, you can delete all the vendor coded themes. Don't get rid of the plazmic theme reader. Then try removing the others, one at a time to see if you can get away with removing them. If you end up with a white screen and black/white icons then put the last theme you removed, back. Just trial and error.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by drstefano

Hi, John-
ok, so I got to the folder with the .alx files but couldn't open (or even find) them with wordpad or with Microsoft Works word processor. (I've looked through all the posts and found the ones about not using Notepad.)

Do I need another text editor, or am I doing something wrong?
thanks

update- I tried the Google word processor and got a message, sorry, but they don't currently work with .axl files.

If you're using Windows XP simply right click on the .alx file and select "open with." Then choose "choose program" and select WordPad. That's what I use to open them.

mosabsolum · 03-19-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

If you have OS 4.2 or later on your 8707 then make sure you are running Desktop Manager 4.2 SP2 or later. Plug in the device and run Desktop manager / Media Manager. In the lower right corner you should be able to select your device memory. Just move the file from the top to the bottom to transfer the file. It's fairly intuitive.

Thank you John, but my 8707's OS is 4.1.0.316. Now the question is how I'm going to upgrade to 4.2x?

drstefano · **Thanks, John -** 03-19-2008, 04:38 PM

I thought that I'd already tried that, but probably just "OPEN" and not "OPEN WITH". Nevertheless, your suggestion worked immediately.

thanks,
Steven