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Old 01-04-2008, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm a BB newbie and only had my s/h BB7230 for less than a week, but I'm already tearing my hair out. I never realised what a steep learning curve it was going to be, even though I regard myself as above-average tech savvy (recording engineer & music technology trainer by profession).

Some of the fault may lie with the joker who sold me the device in the first place (sorry, I didn't know about this Forum beforehand or the FAQ in it about buying a BB from Ebay) as the BB was full of the last person's data, came with no unlock PIN, and had an IT policy which I've just succeeded in removing, thanks to Kudos' FAQ. The phone is SIM unlocked but I now think the IMEI is still registered to another provider (tried logging in to A1 from my PC with the PIN & IMEI and it was refused with that message).

I'm almost on the verge of getting my money back from him or reselling it, but with your help guys, I'm going to stick with it a bit longer.

I know most of this forum's readers are in the States or Canada, but my problem concerns the A1 network in Austria. (I'm considering changing to another provider very soon so perhaps some BB users from here can recommend one.)

I took the SIM card out of my Samsung SGH-Z107V which is for a contract mobile and it has the facility to access WAP pages via Vodafone Live, so I assume that means I can receive & send data (what's known as a data plan, right??) and I'm sure there is also an e-mail facility but I've never used it. I don't want a full BB plan as I wouldn't use it enough to justify the cost. I don't work for a company so I don't have a BES.

Anyway, one of my problems is this: I've installed DM 4.2 (tried 4.3 but heard it had a few bugs) and made sure I chose BIS not Enterprise server, and also updated the device software to (according to the handheld) using the downloaded A1 file, although in Device Manager-->About-->Device Software it says, which doesn't correlate.

But I still have an Enterprise Activation icon on my handheld, and not a Setup Internet Email icon as I expected it to be after reading about it in the BIS FAQ.

I've wiped the BB using JL_Cmder and re-installed DM and the OS, but still no joy.

All I want to do is reconcile my emails to my handheld and transfer across and sync a few PIM items.

Why is this device so difficult to get to grips with?? And it's an old model, so God help me if I ever upgrade to a Pearl or a Curve.

Any help or advice gratefully received.

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Old 01-05-2008, 03:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Moderators, you have my permission to delete the empty posts below (sorry!). Been having many problems accessing your server.
Old 01-05-2008, 07:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can't access to email without a Blackberry data plan. Period. Lots of folks are using BBs without the added expense of a dedicated Blackberry data plan but they give up most of what makes the BB so special.

You can hide the Enterprise Activation Icon but you can't remove it. It's part of the OS and coded into it.

With Desktop Manager you can sync contacts and calendar events to a computer, but not email. Blackberrys don't sync email. With BES everything will match (opened items on the BB will show as opened in Outlook, deleted items in Outlook will be deleted on the BB, etc.) but Blackberrys don't sync email. As for the version of Desktop Manager and handheld OS version, they don't have to match. The latest stable DM software is 4.2. SP2. The folks using DM 4.3 have reported all kinds of issues and it looks like for now the best release is the older 4.2, available for free download: BlackBerry - BlackBerry Desktop Software | Applications to Synchronize Your BlackBerry and Desktop Data
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another good place to look is in the website. There are many many tips and tricks. You got a bad deal through ebay and that may taint your initial view of the device. Keep in mind the seller has nothing to do with Blackberries in general, and was just trying to get rid of a device they could no longer use. I cannot find the survey recently, but a fresh blackberry, with a first time user, has one of the shortest learning curves of any PDA device. (i *think* it was an Ipsos Reid survey)
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