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Old 01-19-2008, 01:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi, i just got my blackberry today. i did not get the data plan with it because i really dont want to pay 40 dollars a month for nothing. so... my question is how can i get jivetalk to work? i heard i need a generic plan? what is that? someone explain please.
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Hmmm without bb data jivetalk will probably not work well if at all.

People have managed to get some data to work without BB data plan. Do search many threads about it sir!
Try the blackberryfaq may be in there
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If you're on T-Mobile and have a regular minutes plan already, BIS unlimited is $20/month. And without a Blackberry Data Plan there's not much point in having a Blackberry. You'd be better off with something like a Nokia E61i and the $5.99 TZones plan.
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If you're on T-Mobile and have a regular minutes plan already, BIS unlimited is $20/month. And without a Blackberry Data Plan there's not much point in having a Blackberry. You'd be better off with something like a Nokia E61i and the $5.99 TZones plan.
Totally agree. Blackberry is for people who want the extra advantage the BB data plan brings. You'd be better off getting a non-blackberry with a cheap data plan.
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hi, i just got my blackberry today. i did not get the data plan with it because i really dont want to pay 40 dollars a month for nothing. so... my question is how can i get jivetalk to work? i heard i need a generic plan? what is that? someone explain please.
By my definition, a generic data plan would be data service through the carrier that is not a blackberry data plan. You might look at How to use BlackBerry on Generic Data Plan - BlackBerryFAQ.com

As far as paying for nothing, I don't get you. As another above said, the TMO USA blackberry plan is $20/mo and you get a heck of a lot for that.
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Before getting back to Blackberrys, I was using the Nokia E61i with TZones myself, and it was pretty good. I could browse the web and check multiple email accounts. The Blackberry experience is head and shoulders above it, but it will at least do the basics.
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Why do people buy Blackberrys and not want to spend the money to make it work? I agree with Rambo47 , get a standard Cell phone.
The T-Mobile at $20 is a good buy compaired to the other carriers
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Geez people....there are lots of reasons to buy a BB and not have a data plan. I have two Pearls in my house (wife and daughter) who have no data plan. My daughter loves to text message with it and my wife likes having the calendar/outlook sync to keep track of the kids schedules. '

Quit giving folks a hard time for not getting a data plan. If they choose not to have one and are just looking to see what the most they can do, it seems fine with me. If they are looking for a way to get what they didn't pay for then, granted, that doesn't make sense.
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Geez people....there are lots of reasons to buy a BB and not have a data plan. I have two Pearls in my house (wife and daughter) who have no data plan. My daughter loves to text message with it and my wife likes having the calendar/outlook sync to keep track of the kids schedules. '

Quit giving folks a hard time for not getting a data plan. If they choose not to have one and are just looking to see what the most they can do, it seems fine with me. If they are looking for a way to get what they didn't pay for then, granted, that doesn't make sense.
I think it was "pay 40 dollars a month for nothing" that pushed buttons. At least it did for me. I appreciate someone wanting a blackberry but not desiring to have the data plan. It's the wanting the service, or some of it, and not wanting to pay the freight.
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I still think TMO at $20 bucks is a good deal
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Yeah, the "pay $40 for nothing" phrase is a little nonsensical.

The profile throws me, though. 8310 on TMobile?

To the OP: A little more info please? Are you on TMobile and what device did you purchase?
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I read the FAQ about generic data, I assume the same tactics apply to using an AT&T Wireless plan (i.e. configuring GMAIL and such)?
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I read the FAQ about generic data, I assume the same tactics apply to using an AT&T Wireless plan (i.e. configuring GMAIL and such)?
Not sure what your asking. The FAQ is centered on Rogers service.
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Geez people....there are lots of reasons to buy a BB and not have a data plan. I have two Pearls in my house (wife and daughter) who have no data plan. My daughter loves to text message with it and my wife likes having the calendar/outlook sync to keep track of the kids schedules. '

Quit giving folks a hard time for not getting a data plan. If they choose not to have one and are just looking to see what the most they can do, it seems fine with me. If they are looking for a way to get what they didn't pay for then, granted, that doesn't make sense.
I have no problem with folks who want to use their BB as a texting platform or for the phone and PIM functions. What chaps me butt is when folks ask, over and over again, how to get over on the system and get data for free. They clearly want email or IM but either didn't do their homework and learn what's required, or they just want someone to hand them a workaround. It's an epidemic I tell ya!
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well 40 dollars for email and slow internet browsing seems overpriced to me. well 20 dollars sorry.. even 56k is faster. anyways i heard u can make jivetalk work without the data plan but i dont know how to do it. as for the 8310 curve. its an att phone thats unlocked.
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you need some kind of data plan to get data, or you will pay through the nose for per KB charges. As for 56k being faster, edge tops out at 400kbps, and EVDO at 700kbps download.
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well 40 dollars for email and slow internet browsing seems overpriced to me. well 20 dollars sorry.. even 56k is faster. anyways i heard u can make jivetalk work without the data plan but i dont know how to do it. as for the 8310 curve. its an att phone thats unlocked.
It may be well worth it if your business depends on it. If you're just an individual wanting push email and such it's a personal preference. 56k faster?? On what planet?
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