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Old 02-05-2008, 10:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hearing that IMAP is the way to go for real-time email to my gmail account... I am not getting any notifications on my device for new gmail messages (sound or visual). Also, should they all be coming into my main BES messages inbox?
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am sooooo glad I am not the only one with these questions! I am still trying to figure out the messaging system on the 8130 myself, coming over from the HTC Touch. The emails come in the BES Messaging folder and the gmail folder. Thank goodness for all the wisdom on this board!!!
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not sure what everyone else is doing, but I use the gmail application on my bb when I want to access gmail (www.gmail.com/app). Then again, gmail is my secondary personal account which I need to keep separate from my work email through BES.
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I am looking at using Gmail as primary for a while and want the best option. Anyone else?
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Go to the BIS website and add your Gmail account. This is all you have to do. Gmail delivery has been instantaneous from day 1. Even before Gmail supported IMAP.
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Yes. I would just set up Gmail as a POP mail account on the BIS web site.
It is instant, and has been great!
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes. I would just set up Gmail as a POP mail account on the BIS web site.
It is instant, and has been great!
Doesn't pop set it up to poll every 15 mins? Looking for real time which is why I heard iMAP.
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[size=1]Doesn't pop set it up to poll every 15 mins? Looking for real time which is why I heard iMAP.
Yahoo and Gmail are instant. Anything outside of these two are 15 mins.
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[size=1]Doesn't pop set it up to poll every 15 mins? Looking for real time which is why I heard iMAP.
Yahoo and Gmail are instant. Anything outside of these two are 15 mins.
So why choose one over the other?(pop vs iMAP)
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My limited BB experience has shown it doesn't matter whether you use POP or IMAP. Some of my Gmail shows up instantly while others are delayed -- the setup doesn't seem to make a difference in delivery times. YMMV.
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I second(or fifth) the BIS option. Have been using it for a couple of years and it has always been instant delivery. Never a gap. Just make sure you read the FAQ on how to set up the filter so that you don't end up getting your own sent items delivered back into your inbox.
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Also, should they all be coming into my main BES messages inbox?
Yes -- Messages is not a BES-specific inbox. It's for all messages.
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Yes. I would just set up Gmail as a POP mail account on the BIS web site.
It is instant, and has been great!
Sorry, I'm new at this...how do you do this BIS stuff?
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If you choose IMAP, you can choose wireless synchronization where if you delete a message off your blackberry, it will delete it in your Gmail inbox. The downside for IMAP is that when you send an email or reply from your BB, it will not appear in your Gmail's sent folder.

If you choose POP, sent messages from your BB will appear in Gmail's sent folder, but no wireless synchronization however.

I use POP by the way.



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So why choose one over the other?(pop vs iMAP)
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Have been using IMAP with good success except for the state of an email (read or unread).....is there a setting that I am missing?
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Many folks don't understand how true push IMAP with full sync both ways is supposed to work. it's like they're the horse that's had hay their whole life, but doesn't know that oats are better.

It boils down to this: Is getting your emails instantly on your BB so important, that you are willing to deal with duplicate emails on your computer and your device? (yes, I know about how to fix Gmail on the BB so it doesn't receive your sent items, but if you delete an email from Gmail, it doesn't delete it from your BB. If you read an email on your BB, it doesn't mark it as read on your BB.) Also, I never found a way to be able to see my sent items with the BB email app. Lame. Maybe I want to read something I sent.

With the Gmail app, you get full sync both ways between Gmail and your BB. You can also view sent items, all mail, and perform searches of your entire Gmail database that could potentially be multiple gigs of data. The compromise? It doesn't sync up instantly. It takes something like 15-30 minutes. I truly hope Gmail will fix this on their app to allow for instant push emails and syncs, but until then- this is way better than dealing with shortcomings of the BB email program.
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I just checked my BIS settings and it appears that I have IMAP and POP enabled. There should only be one enabled, correct?
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I do like the feature of two way sync offered by Gmail app, but does it work in TMO's BlackBerry Unlimited E-mail Add-on ($9.99) plan ?




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Many folks don't understand how true push IMAP with full sync both ways is supposed to work. it's like they're the horse that's had hay their whole life, but doesn't know that oats are better.

It boils down to this: Is getting your emails instantly on your BB so important, that you are willing to deal with duplicate emails on your computer and your device? (yes, I know about how to fix Gmail on the BB so it doesn't receive your sent items, but if you delete an email from Gmail, it doesn't delete it from your BB. If you read an email on your BB, it doesn't mark it as read on your BB.) Also, I never found a way to be able to see my sent items with the BB email app. Lame. Maybe I want to read something I sent.

With the Gmail app, you get full sync both ways between Gmail and your BB. You can also view sent items, all mail, and perform searches of your entire Gmail database that could potentially be multiple gigs of data. The compromise? It doesn't sync up instantly. It takes something like 15-30 minutes. I truly hope Gmail will fix this on their app to allow for instant push emails and syncs, but until then- this is way better than dealing with shortcomings of the BB email program.
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I do like the feature of two way sync offered by Gmail app, but does it work in TMO's BlackBerry Unlimited E-mail Add-on ($9.99) plan ?
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Here are my findings with gmail and blackberry BIS

When set as POP the following happens:
Messages sent from the blackberry show up in the gmail web sent items folder
Messgaes deleted from the blackberry are placed in the gmail web trash folder
Delivery is instant

When set as IMAP the following happens:
Messages deleted from the blackberry are taken out of you web inbox folder but remain in your web all mail folder
Messages sent from blackberry do not show up anywhere on web UNLESS you add a label in the web client: Add "Sent Items" as a label and then blackberry IMAP sent messages show up there.
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