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Hackberry · 07-22-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackWheel

You talk and drive which is still dangerous to use while driving.

If you're serious about this I forbid you from ever talking to anyone else in the car while any one of you are driving. You may sit there in silence until the journey is over.

And as to abrasiveness, reading email while driving is moronic. There is no other way to put it. There are too many drivers on the road (at least here in Atl) to focus your visual attention on something inside the car for any extended length of time. Maybe you feel it is acceptable to watch TV or DVDs while driving?

CrackWheel · 07-22-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackberry

If you're serious about this I forbid you from ever talking to anyone else in the car while any one of you are driving. You may sit there in silence until the journey is over.

Exactly...so then you agree with me then...great! Glad we could work it out.
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Dawg · 07-22-2005, 08:17 PM

Forbid me lol I am free and over 21 you arent forbidding anything

Well I live in atl and I am going to read my blackberry I am gonna type on my blackberry I am going to talk on my blackberry and there isnt a thing you can do if you wanna call me a moron go right ahead.

I pay for it to be a mobile unit and mobile means in my car since thats where I spend 90% of my day

rcrivera03 · 07-22-2005, 08:52 PM

[quote=Hackberry]If you're serious about this I forbid you from ever talking to anyone else in the car while any one of you are driving. You may sit there in silence until the journey is over.

Next time I get called to go search for a missing loved one, I'll be sure to tell them, "We couldn't recover your lost loved one in time, because I was forbiden to speak on my cell phone or answer my emails while driving, So sorry, we lost valuable time pulling over."

Hackberry · 07-22-2005, 09:09 PM

[quote=rcrivera03]

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Originally Posted by Hackberry

If you're serious about this I forbid you from ever talking to anyone else in the car while any one of you are driving. You may sit there in silence until the journey is over.

Next time I get called to go search for a missing loved one, I'll be sure to tell them, "We couldn't recover your lost loved one in time, because I was forbiden to speak on my cell phone or answer my emails while driving, So sorry, we lost valuable time pulling over."

Stop being disingenuous.

Perhaps you can also explain to the person whose loved one you killed because your attention wasn't focused on the road, "so sorry, reading my email was more important than the person in the other car".

Which is more likely: that an accident is caused by lack of attention on the road, or that a missing loved one is not recovered because an email couldn't be read in time.

Dawg · 07-22-2005, 09:20 PM

depends on if the notice is sent via email as some are in the fire and emergency services

we get weather reports via email vital SRT information all via email

rcrivera03 · 07-22-2005, 09:21 PM

You have your opinion, I have mine. I got the BB to as a mobile solution, so I'll read while driving if I want.

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawg

I agree it can be cumbersome but I drive probally a hundred miles a day between job sites and I bought a great holder for the dash and I can manipulate it while in the holder with one hand so its much easier.

I cant believe you would say that stopping at a pay phone was a better option

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackberry

Then don't use it while driving. Moron.

Hackferry,

You and Tom Sawyer, probably don't havr jobs that require travel and meeting with clients to create. You must have a job that allowsyou to sit at your desk all day. Unfornuately, your comment defeats the purpose of having a cell phone and illustrates that you rarely get out of Hannibal, MO and hold a over glorified clerical position that can be outsourced to India. Break out your strawhat, as you will be back to painting fences again you hayseed hick.

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackberry

I'm reminded of the (Marx brothers?) gag:

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
Doctor: "Don't do it then."

If someone finds reading email dangerous when driving, the only proper response is to tell that person to not do it. I would hope this would be obvious to all but the most simple-minded, hence the 'moron' epithet.

Never mind the fact that it actually is dangerous.

Hey Hillbilly Hackferry,

My comment was that I find the cell phone is cumbersome and I never use email while I drive. The logic on the unit is backwards. But as backwards go, it must make perfect sense to you and your banjo loving family.

Leave the reading to those of us with opposing thumbs. And no, opposing thumbs has nothing to do with the world thumb wrestling federation.

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonshadow

DITTO in Spades

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackWheel

You are all guilty of driving and talking on your cell phones. This board is not one in which we stand behind our computers and sling insults. Please keep it civil. We are here for information and community support. If you are going to hold yourself to a higher standard and insult rather than help, then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. The driving while talking/typing is for another time. If you want to debate the issue, start a new thread. DonMcD has legit questions.

Thank you for reading my post in the right light. I just got back i town and was responding to some of the replies and started having fun.

Let me make clear, I do not read or compose emails while driving and my concern was that when I try to use the device as a cell, which I believe is acceptable when done judiciously, I find the BB cumbersome and a potentially dangerous device. My hope was that, as Dawg pointed out, there could be some set up issues that could be changed or a software enhancement.

Sorry for taking the bait and having fun with it, I do believe this is a shortcoming of the 7520. The fact that the lineage of the device is email first, phone second does help explain the issue. However, it still seems to be a significant flaw to a user that does ot care about the history only the functionality.

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rcrivera03

I agree with you CrackWheel.

The day after I got a BB for my son I told him, don't drive and read. That very nigh I caught him doing it, smacked him in the back of the head. The next morning he smacks me in the back of the head, when I asked him why, he said, "you're driving and reading!"

DonMcD, Unfortunately I too must drive and read at the same time. In my line of work (Search & Rescue) I do not have the luxury of stopping to read an email or answer a call.

I purchased a BB Stand and a Laptop stand for vehicles, and modified both to fit next to the steering wheel, but directly in my line of sight, allowing me to look at the road and the BB at the same time, for phone calls I use and earpiece. Also, I rearranged the Icons so I know at all times just how may clicks I need to turn the wheel to get to a specific icon. Drawback is if you don't return to the starting point, your count is thrown off. Don't give up on the BB, you find your ways around it.

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackberry

I have an earpiece for just this reason. I have never initiated a call from my car while moving, and I don't intend to start until the BB has voice dialling. I hope you understand there is a difference between talking and reading.

I find it quite arrogant of you to assume everyone here is guilty of the same sin. If this is holding myself to a higher standard, so be it - what exactly is wrong with doing so?

The OP brought up the issue of driving while talking/ typing/ reading. I responded in kind. If you don't like this, stop reading the forum.

The OP was about using the cell phone feature.

DonMcD · 07-24-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackberry

If you're serious about this I forbid you from ever talking to anyone else in the car while any one of you are driving. You may sit there in silence until the journey is over.

And as to abrasiveness, reading email while driving is moronic. There is no other way to put it. There are too many drivers on the road (at least here in Atl) to focus your visual attention on something inside the car for any extended length of time. Maybe you feel it is acceptable to watch TV or DVDs while driving?

WHO said anything about reading emails while driving? My feeling is that the unit should function as a cell first, because I only use the email function when I have the time to focus on it. Not while driving a car.

If you have never used your cell phone while in a car, why do you own one? The only logical answer is if you live somewhere like NYC and do not need a car.

Quoted from the original post (emphasis added to help Hackberry

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Each of these illustrate a logic problem that I wish could be resolved. When I need to use my 7520 as a phone, I am often in a position where I do not have the ability to scroll through menu options (in my car). When I am checking email, I am always in a position where scrolling through menus is not an issue (never while driving a car). Even still, there is no real reason why an email would need to trigger the same priority of menu options as a voice call because the unit has to differentiate between the two.

I want my 7520 to function under the logic of a phone first and email second. Other co-workers carry cell phones and Blackberry's because of this issue, and I find that unacceptable.

bjrys · 07-25-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rcrivera03

Called Motorola about this, and they said whoever told you to look into it was right, so thanks, they put me in touch with a local Motorola Authorized installer. I told the dealer what I do for a living, he's coming tomorrow to go over the set up and show me the ML900.

Thanks again.

Do you have an update on this? I am in a similar situation, and would be interested in how this worked out for you...specificly the functionality of the ML900 MDT.

Thanks

Moonshadow · 07-25-2005, 03:18 PM

DonMcD
Yes, now that I look a little more carefully, you are right. I apologize. Sheesh, people sure are touchy in here. I guess I shouldn't tell them about playing Brickbreaker while driving!!

rcrivera03 · 07-25-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bjrys

Do you have an update on this? I am in a similar situation, and would be interested in how this worked out for you...specificly the functionality of the ML900 MDT.

Thanks

***ML900 UPDATE***
I will be having the system installed. I will most likely post something in the OffTopic Lounge. So if you really want to know please send me a PM to let me know that you are interested. The dealer has to verify my authorization to access Emergency Management Systems, when that is done they will install it in mine and my supervisors vehicle.

DonMcD · 07-26-2005, 12:22 AM

Moonshadow,

Man, isn't brickbreaker the wierdest thing to put on a BB? Who came up with that one?

camerch · 07-26-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DonMcD

Moonshadow,

Man, isn't brickbreaker the wierdest thing to put on a BB? Who came up with that one?

There was actually a real arcade game that reminds me of brick breaker. but I can't remember what it was called! Anyone remember?

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