Hey just reading some News about TMO releasing 3G finally on the Network tomorrow, it's Voice Only.... Will that make our BB Signal a lot stronger and does that effect anything else on our BB's?

3G for voice doesnt make much sense, since 3G is for data.

Here's the link if ya want to check it out.

T-Mobile to debut 3G as voice-only. No data. We're over it. - Engadget Mobile

i dont think the term 3G applies to voice. I am fairly certain its only a data thing. 3G voice is just *another* network for voice to run on, a different frequency that users wont be able to use. unless i am quite mistaken

I have know clue what there thinking....LOL...

a mistake in my opinion because if this is true, they'll have to roll out devices that would support this new voice-only network, correct?

if its on a different frequency set, which I believe it is, then yes they will

So this 3G network shouldn't effect current BB user for TMO or will they eventually Which us all over to 3G?

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no, current blackberry devices are not 3G data capable. and i really dont see any potential benefits to high speed voice...

Maybe our voices will travel at Mach 2 instead of Mach 1?

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8100 Pearl)

Even then, with the addition of 3G, users would have to buy new BB's that have 3G radios in them. Too bad the radios aren't software upgradeable.

Not at all. Current TMO BB's don't operate on their 3G frequencies. Also -- as has already been mentioned, there are no 3G GSM BB's yet.

Alright woke up this morning to a regular edge not a EDGE i took out the battery and put it back in and and it's still in edge mode? I hope this 3G voice is not screwing up my data i can't access any websites....

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

Verizon EVDO is 3G, and if the device is EVDO capable, doesn't that make it 3G capable?

could it make us talk faster? i like that micro-machines guy. lol.

3G on GSM carriers was the implication, I believe.

Have you called TMO to see about data outages in your area? You have decent CSR's (unlike those of us on at&t) so there's no excuse to not call.

Was only speaking of the GSM carriers as of that post.

I called today they said there should be any interfearance with the GSM EDGE and GPRS networks but there 3G Voice is confirmed that it just voice only for know evenually it will convert data over I asked how is that 3g could only be Voice he could tell me that information....

Shame that you would have to buy a 3g compatible blackberry/phone to benefit from their upgrade.

Yeah it sucks

3G or TRUE 3G is as much needed for Voice Calls as it is for Data! And I'm not just refering to VoIP on the network. GSM networks (core GSM) only could carry roughly 8-20 calls PEAK for tower using 8channels. Data connections (like bbs dialup days) where barely only 9kbps. GPRS increased data (46-56kbps peak; avg 36-41kbps) but it also increased more users per tower for voice calls; roughly 22-32 per tower. Rarely there is just 1 tower in any location nowadays but years ago it was VERY common. EDGE also quadrupled data rates (peak & avg), along with doubling voice calls as well. Same goes for UMTS ... although HSPDA did NOT increase calls per tower; as tower hopping happens more frequently than most ppl realize.

Now if we're talking about CDMA EV-DO for Data ONLY then yes that "3G" (right it was added to that 3G nomenclature after much whining and data comparisons after 2yrs of 3G standards already established.) is for Data Only - increases in data speeds did not affect # of calls per tower, although call quality did improve.

Sorry I used to have several links on Ericsson's site to proove this but they've been moved or archived where their currently dead in my browser. Ericsson is amongst the largest makers of network tower/Base Station/switching systems used by GSM carriers in the world, amongs Motorola, Nokia, and recently Siemens/Lucent.

EDIT: Links found.

GSM (8 calls per tower = same as radio frequency)
GSM - Global System for Mobile Communications

GPRS

I'm truely confused.

Saw this on phonescoop on friday

T-Mobile USA to get rolling on 3G - RCR Wireless News

Why would anyone release 3G for voice only? That doesn't make any sense. What's with a few of their phones that are WCDMA 1700 capable?

Jagga - are you saying that even today, a GSM cell tower can only handle 44-64 simultaneous calls?

You need to READ my post not skim it. I said "8-20 calls" for a GSM Core tower (not one that was augmented with GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA). I clearly stated that GPRS, and EDGE, as well as UMTS increase the "#" of voice calls per tower.

This is why T-Mobile for just a weekend rolled out 3G for Voice calls because in New York City the population is HUGE! That said I'm sure many MANY users have experience dropped calls consistently with an GSM/GPRS/EDGE network ... which in that population even with so many towers has a huge load. There are only so many places a network can put towers that is approved by the FCC and is available for RENT ... not ALL locations for towers is OWNED by the network - the equipment yes or on roaming but locations - physical tower locations not ALL are OWNED by the network. Previous working experience.

Most providers test out voice calling capacities first before going data - they just don't publicize it like T-Mobile USA did ... its sounds silly to those not aware of the reasoning. I just hope they can offer even half the coverage that AT&T does for 3G HSPDA at a more reasonable unlimited cost. Then you'll all have something to enjoy.

And you need to not be a dick. You state GPRS increases call capacity to 22-32, and EDGE doubled that, hence the 44-64. You need to read your own post.