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Old 06-17-2008, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have yet to get my first Blueberry sorry Blackberry (Bold ugugug drool etc.) and wonder if email can work the way I want it to, like so:
  1. When my computer is on and BB Desktop running with Outlook, emails are forwarded to my Blackberry from Outlook only
  2. When my computer is off and BB Desktop not running, and only when it is off, BB Server instead collects my POP3 mail from 2 mailboxes and forwards it to my BB
  3. While on the move, I can check BOTH POP3 accounts in *one place* on the BB (e.g. some sort of 'all accounts' folder) and see all incoming emails from 2 POP3 addresses in one place, to scroll through
  4. When I click Reply, the reply comes from that associated 1 of 2 email addresses (not from some standard BB address)
  5. When I get home and dock my BB, all Sent Items are sync'd back to Outlook

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Yes and no. According the BIS or BES plan you have, some of that is possible.

1. Not easily. RIM uses push email technology to grab the mail from your server and push to your BB... you can set your Outlook to forward all your mail to your BB... but you would have to have a BB-specific address (which is not a great idea because the [email address] address are great spam collectors.

You can use BlackBerry Redirector for some portion of what you need, but in my opinion, even that is not a great solution.

You need to first decide if you want BIS or BES.
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I have a little trick I use. When I'm gone, I leave Outlook running all the time. I set up a rule to forward incoming message to an e-mail account that I pick up on my notebook; the notebook & desktop also have rules to place notebook-sent messages in the desktop Sent folder. And with Outlook running on the desktop, the Redirector copies everything to my BB.

All I do for each trip is set a beginning and end date for the rule to fire.

And I always have the option of reading that forewarded mail through the mail server's Web interface even when I don't have my notebook along.
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Thanks guys, well assuming I will use BIS which of the following refined needs can I do other than what you have already mentioned?
  1. BIS sends my POP3 email from 2 mailboxes to my BB
  2. While on the move, I can check BOTH POP3 accounts in *one place* on the BB (e.g. some sort of 'all accounts' folder) and see all incoming emails from 2 POP3 addresses in one place, to scroll through
  3. When I click Reply, the reply comes from that associated 1 of 2 email addresses (not from some standard BB address or from the other POP account to the one the email came in on)
  4. When I get home and dock my BB, all Sent Items are sync'd back to Outlook Sent Items

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Another awesome reason why BB's are the ish!
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Notes in red. If I have mistakenly guided you, I will be corrected.

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Thanks guys, well assuming I will use BIS which of the following refined needs can I do other than what you have already mentioned?
  1. BIS sends my POP3 email from 2 mailboxes to my BB Yes, good.
  2. While on the move, I can check BOTH POP3 accounts in *one place* on the BB (e.g. some sort of 'all accounts' folder) and see all incoming emails from 2 POP3 addresses in one place, to scroll through Yes, good. All mail will come to your "Messages" folder. Your BIS account will create an additional folder for each individual email account, but you should hide and ignore those folders.
  3. When I click Reply, the reply comes from that associated 1 of 2 email addresses (not from some standard BB address or from the other POP account to the one the email came in on) Correct, as it operates this way. Anytime you "reply" to an email, the BB will only "reply from" the address to which it was sent. Only when creating a new message or forwarding a message, will you have an option to change the "sending using" account. Set your default email address in Options > Advanced > Default Services (or Options > Advanced > Messages in some OS versions). I would not even recommend getting a "standard BB address".
  4. When I get home and dock my BB, all Sent Items are sync'd back to Outlook Sent Items Here's the catch, can't do. BIS accounts do not sync email. BUT, you can set your BIS account setup to automatically copy all sent messages to another address.
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Very good, thanks. And then re point 4 I can set Outlook Rules to move all emails sent from my own address (i.e. BB Sent Items) to the Outlook Sent Items folder and mark them as read. Sorted, lovely.

Next question is, what is the best non-server based spam filter for the BB? I use Cloudmark Desktop on Outlook which cannot be beaten, but sadly has no server-based solution for end users, so I need a solution of sorts for the BB.
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There is no good spam filter for the BB. You need to filter spam in your email inbox before it ever gets to the BB.
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There is only one, of which I am aware, for the BB device itself, by AntAir.
Antair - BlackBerry Spam Filter

But you really need a server solution. Even if AntAir works well (I don't know) you should kill the spam at the server. The reason there is only the one device spam filter is that there just isn't much call for it since most spam is killed beforehand.
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I have some filtering at the server with greylisting, which I can live with as only a couple get through it a day. However does BIS have any filtering options itself? Antair looks good however, and just leaves spam on the server for Outlook to handle when I get home.

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BIS has some filters you can set, very limited configurations, but possible.
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BIS has filters but they're not a realistic option as a spam solution. Again, you need to filter spam before it even reaches BIS. Are you integrating existing POP accounts with BIS? Services like gmail have pretty good spam filtering and ideal for use with BIS (plus gmail will reconcile with BIS).
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When I get home and dock my BB, all Sent Items are sync'd back to Outlook Sent Items Here's the catch, can't do. BIS accounts do not sync email. BUT, you can set your BIS account setup to automatically copy all sent messages to another address.
Technically you can't sync email with any BB -- BIS or BES. Email is pushed and reconciled. "Sync" in this context refers to reconciliation which isn't supported with POP accounts but the autoBCC workaround mentioned will take care of this.

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