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Old 08-15-2005, 02:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i got the blackberry 7100g from cingular last week thinking of changing to treo 650.. wich one is better? want to upgrade not downgrade.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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THis is not a great place to come and get positive information on a Treo.

If you want an unstable operating system, a physically fragile device, withou secure wireless e-mail, by all means get a Treo 650.

But hold onto the 7100 because you will running back to it
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't forget to mention, get yourself familiar with where the reset button is on a Treo, you'll be using it a fair bit...
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THis is not a great place to come and get positive information on a Treo.

If you want an unstable operating system, a physically fragile device, withou secure wireless e-mail, by all means get a Treo 650.

But hold onto the 7100 because you will running back to it
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Behind the battery cover, right? I forget. I have two Treo 600s (my old one and my wife's old one - she traded hers in for a 7100t) :O
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Old 08-15-2005, 12:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Now for me... I'm a Palm OS and BB user. It does surprise me that the Treo is so unstable from an OS point of view. My Tunsten T2 is rock solid stable. But now with the latest Palm OS Garnet in it's 1000000th iteration, known by some as Frankengarnet (HAHAHAHA) it seems that all the hacks that Palm has put into it has caused issues. As for the BlackBerry, I chose the BB for several reasons. Better one handed use, stability, security, form factor, and simplicity. Althought the Palm OS is powerful, has lots of software, and I already use it for my PDA, it jsut didn't hit the mark for me. I would like my BB to have OBEX Bluetooth support and IR for vcard exchange, the Blackberry really does an outstanding job. I think I like it so much becuase it is just straight forward. And there are a lot of little things; keystokes, for example, make for a nice experience when doing simple things, everyday things. You might not be playing music on it, or video, but you will be getting things down. I will have to say that I do not, and have not, used a Treo beyond simply tinkering around with them, but my experience with Palm OS says that I don't think the Treo will have the same user experience that the BB (7100t for me) will.
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dont get me wrong the bb 1700g is a great phone and everyday i use it i like it more.thats why i want to be sure about the change.i have 3 mpx 200 and 1 mpx 220 im use to the file manager and mp3 and moding the phone to your likings.i dont like about the bb is u cant send files or pics, but for emails and a stble phone its great..another thing i dont like is i change the sim alot and it sr's everytime i take the batt out. how unstable is the palm os or should i wait for the new 670 with pocet ps or wm5, smartphone idont know i now its windows?1 more question how is the browser on the treo 650?
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treo SUX! i think the GUI is confusing
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again..i agree with G-L..I have had a few treos and the novelty has worn off.

madmaxedcn...your PHONE IS A 7100 Not a 1700. G
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Prior to switching to a Blackberry 7290 this past winter, I was a Palm user for eight years, and I really liked the flexibility of the Palm as a PDA, the number of applications available for it, and everything that I could do with it.

I went through many of the various iterations of Palm Smartphones, looking for the best and simplest way to stay connected on the go (anybody remember the Qualcomm pdQ 1900?). While these were all neat solutions, I found that they complicated my life more, rather than simplifying it. There was such a thing as having too many options, and when you spend more time playing with the technology than using it to do your work, something is wrong.

Like many, I was eagerly awaiting the Treo 650 as my next upgrade (I had been using a T3 with a BT cell phone at the time), and although I had followed the Blackberry over the years, and the whole push e-mail concept was very appealing, the device had always seemed too limiting compared to a Palm device.

However, after playing with a friend's Blackberry for a few minutes, and then doing some research and discovering much of the information on this site (mostly Mark's FAQs about what you can do with a Blackberry now), I decided to forget about the Treo 650 and take the Blackberry plunge.

While there are a few things I miss from my Palm days, the overall simplicity of the Blackberry in simply getting the job done is a huge benefit. Complete wireless synchronization has become a huge feature for me (I can't imagine going back to Hotsyncing, and in fact I purposely avoid BB applications that require connection to a desktop to do anything). Another benefit is the fact that my e-mail is pushed to me as it comes in (on my previous Palm devices, having to think to start up an e-mail application and "poll" for mail when I was in appropriate coverage meant that I usually didn't check my mail that often unless I was expecting something specific).

The bottom line is that if e-mail is a mission-critical application for you, then there is really no solution nearly as viable as the Blackberry. If, on the other hand, you're looking for a full PDA feature set, and staying connected isn't that important, then you would probably find a number of other devices, the Treo 650 included, more suited to your needs.

In a few years down the road, solutions like Windows Mobile 5.0 may become viable for those who want the best of both worlds (a PDA with serious push synchronization functionality), but right now Windows Mobile 5.0 is still largely vaporware, and the fact that it will only support Exchange 2003 SP2 coupled with Microsoft's track record at first releases of new technology..... Well, you can fill in the blanks yourself....

To me, the Blackberry is the best example right now of "appliance" technology... Technology that is so straightforward and intuitive, you don't even realize you're using it.
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jdh - what a great reply! Thanks. An excellent response...
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jdh - what a great reply! Thanks. An excellent response...
I agree. I just cut/paste it and sent it to our Treo admin here at the office.

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