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Old 06-26-2008, 01:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just got my unlocked brand new 8820. However my Carrier doesn't support nor BIS or BES. How can I then check my e-mail using my 8820? Do I need BIS or BES in order to check email other than using Browser? I would like to setup my Gmail account for the new device.

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well do you have a data plan?
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There is a gmail application that you can download, not sure if it works over wifi though.



Without BIS or BES you either have to browse to your email or use the gmail application or yahoo go if you have a yahoo account



Look in the FAQ section for advice as there is an article on what you can do without a data plan.

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Old 06-26-2008, 05:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I can use either Wifi, EDGE or GPRS for data. Not any other 3'rd party mail client I can use?
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Flurry mail works, it's a sort of mail aggrigator (collector) and Tiggit mail might work also.

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OK, thanks. I will try the Native Gmail application and then tiggit mail.
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Without a Blackberry Data Plan, either BES or BIS, you can't use EDGE or GPRS for data like checking email. Won't work without the right plan. WiFi is a possibility, and a regular smart phone data plan should give you access to the web through Opera Mini. But without Blackberry support from your carrier, I hate to say it but you might be better off with a regular smart phone, or something like a Nokia E-series.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree with rambo, if your carrier doesn't support the BB, why did you get it? You will be much better off with something that they do support - Windows Mobile, etc.
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Well now, what does that say about the Blackberry itself. The OS is incredibly stable and simple. They are great phones with or without a BB data plan. I know for a fact that flurry and the gmail app will both work with a standard data plan. Lots of applications work, BB Weather, google maps, telenav, etc. Try disabling TCP and see what happens.

Why condemn anyone for not having blackberry data and make them think they made a bad choice in phone or think it's worthless without BB Data? It's not a bad choice and functions fine as a simple pda/phone. Grant you it will not perform to it's full potential but it is still a wonderful device and many things can be done with standard data. Shame on you guys!

Rjpa, you made a great choice on a wonderful device. Welcome to Blackberry Forums.
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If the focus is email, then no data plan is like riding a Ferrari on those silly poly-spares. Sure, it will still go, and it is still a Ferrari, but ?? Very sketchy.
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I understand that I am sure he/she does too, however a simple question was asked, I didn't hear them complaining. A simple question, which is what this forum is for, not for us to be judgemental of someone that makes a choice we don't think is logical.

I used standard data for many months while waiting on my provider to get BB Data services. It did not change my love of the device one bit and I would still be using it even without BIS. As for the WM suggestion, Arggg!!
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I hear ya about Windows Mobile. Every time I use it I get a blinding headache and it makes me angry. And the damage from more than a minute's usage would be incalculable.
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HAHAHA! Then lets have no more suggestions for other OSes here, it's just silly.
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Hi,

I just got my unlocked brand new 8820. However my Carrier doesn't support nor BIS or BES. How can I then check my e-mail using my 8820? Do I need BIS or BES in order to check email other than using Browser? I would like to setup my Gmail account for the new device.

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Well now, what does that say about the Blackberry itself. The OS is incredibly stable and simple. They are great phones with or without a BB data plan. I know for a fact that flurry and the gmail app will both work with a standard data plan. Lots of applications work, BB Weather, google maps, telenav, etc. Try disabling TCP and see what happens.

Why condemn anyone for not having blackberry data and make them think they made a bad choice in phone or think it's worthless without BB Data? It's not a bad choice and functions fine as a simple pda/phone. Grant you it will not perform to it's full potential but it is still a wonderful device and many things can be done with standard data. Shame on you guys!

Rjpa, you made a great choice on a wonderful device. Welcome to Blackberry Forums.
Yes. Well in my country (Denmark) there is only one carrier that have BIS and BES dataplans. But those are not intended nor available for private individuals. Well, maybe I did a mistake when I baught the 8820, but as you say: It's a lovely device, nice, clean and foremost "stable". Coming from a WM world full of bluescreens and reboots, this OS is clean and have a nice "touch" to it, it's simple yet powerful. The reception in the phone is fantastic.

Well, I have no BES or BIS dataplan available with my current carrier (Telia Sonera). But hope that someday they will pickup the world of blackberry. Here in this country this lovely device has been "ignored", the attention and focus have the last 6 months been entirely on Apple's iPhone.

Well enough about that. I've just wiped my handheld and upgraded the OS, and see if it can help me with better conn. through TCP or Wifi.

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Why condemn anyone for not having blackberry data and make them think they made a bad choice in phone or think it's worthless without BB Data?
It happens on every BB forum site I visit. Interesting thing is that there are plenty of very happy BB owners that do not have a BB data plan. Go figure...

The best answer I can figure to your question is that it's a lot easier to simply say "a BB is worthless without a BB data plan" then it is to really assess each individual's needs/wants.

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