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Old 09-21-2008, 11:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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NEW DELHI: The government has decrypted the data on Research In Motionís (RIM) BlackBerry networks. The department of telecommunication (DoT), Intelligence Bureau and security agency National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO) have done tests on service providers such as Bharti Airtel, BPL Mobile, Reliance Communications and Vodafone-Essar networks for interception of Internet messages from BlackBerry to non-BlackBerry devices.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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NEW DELHI: The government has decrypted the data on Research In Motionxxx8217;s (RIM) BlackBerry networks. The department of telecommunication (DoT), Intelligence Bureau and security agency National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO) have done tests on service providers such as Bharti Airtel, BPL Mobile, Reliance Communications and Vodafone-Essar networks for interception of Internet messages from BlackBerry to non-BlackBerry devices.
I saw this article but I am not sure it would be justified to evoke comments based on such minimal information. If it really some great breakthrough then RIM would surely act or react on it. I mean there are other countries too in the world using the same service and I believe they would have done similar tests.

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no its not possible... the only way i can see this happening is well simply the key word in that article is to a NON_BLACKBERRY device... meaning they are intercepting the msg after it leaves RIMs server and in the other persons carriers network.... because RIM uses around a 2000 bit encyption system, so if the msg stayed in the RIM infrastructure then it would stay at that encryption level... but since its leaving the RIM network to go to a non bb device then the RIM servers detect that and drop the encryption significantly so the other device can decode it... hope that makes sense....
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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256 is rims encryption and each message broken into a 2k packeĢ encrytped not too hard to crack in todays times.
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I thought the whole issue was India wouldn't allow Blackberries unless they could intercept and decode the messages. Wouldn't this be the resolution on that where RIM built something into the Indian system and they're now saying, yes we can intercept and decode messages?

This would then mean they would allow the roll out of the BB in India.
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I thought the whole issue was India wouldn't allow Blackberries unless they could intercept and decode the messages. Wouldn't this be the resolution on that where RIM built something into the Indian system and they're now saying, yes we can intercept and decode messages?

This would then mean they would allow the roll out of the BB in India.
Once Rim caters to anyone, their uniqueness is gone and no one would be able to depend on the security of the device - legitimate corporate secrets, and US Gov't security would be compromised. Now, that does not mean that India did not find a way to break into the system. My device is a PHONE that happens to have a qwerty keyboard and I don't depend on its security for anything but others do.

I can't find any reference to this on Yahoo's Tech page and they have had articles in the past on India's conflict with Rim.

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Old 09-22-2008, 10:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Agree with Cory. Show me where RIM ever guaranteed, or otherwise claimed your data remains secure, before or after the message enters/leaves the RIM infrastructure. Encryption drops when the message leaves their network. I don't see this as significant news. It does imply that India "broke" the encryption but that's just not what's being reported here.
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