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Old 09-24-2008, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wanted to know if sending/receiving emails are more secure using blackberry.net addresses vs. PIN-2-PIN messages?
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I understand that they both receive the same encryption.
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But blackberry.net address may leave the RIM network if they are coming from or directed to other domains. PIN-PIN messages do not, thus maintaining their encryption throughout the journey.
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Difficult question to answer as it depends on who you are sending/receiving email from.
Are you emailing from one blackberry.net account to another blackberry.net account?
Wireless traffic is encrypted on RIMs network, but as soon as the email leaves their infrastructure... who knows.

PIN to PIN messages are scrambled (RIMs terminology) for BIS users and can also be encrypted for BES users.
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Just a point on the carrier email address. the only way to view mail on that account is on the BB itself, so no webmail. When the network is down, so is that email address for both send and receive. Another thing to keep in mind is that once you leave that carrier, you cannot take that address with you, it is gone for good. And finally, once the address is out in the open, you are now open for lots of SPAM as it s totally unfiltered.

So, IMHO, it isn't worth it to use that address.
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Just a point on the carrier email address. the only way to view mail on that account is on the BB itself, so no webmail. When the network is down, so is that email address for both send and receive. Another thing to keep in mind is that once you leave that carrier, you cannot take that address with you, it is gone for good. And finally, once the address is out in the open, you are now open for lots of SPAM as it s totally unfiltered.

So, IMHO, it isn't worth it to use that address.
wow, i didn't even consider that about spam not being filtered, good point...

also, are these blackberry.net emails, do they go through a bes server if you are one? can they be tracked?
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I can't say for sure - there seems to be a lot of discussion and disagreement over what a BES can and cannot track. I wil leave that to the BES typse to ponder over and respond.

But what I can say is that if you are on BES, then nothing should be considered as private. If you need access to your personal email, voice, etc, then I suggest you get your own device and not use the company provided device.

Have heard lately that a number of firms are starting to crack down under the guise of cost cutting. They don't want personal stuff on their cell devices, PCs, laptops or their network.
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wow, i didn't even consider that about spam not being filtered, good point...

also, are these blackberry.net emails, do they go through a bes server if you are one? can they be tracked?
They can be 'tracked' to the same extent any other BIS email can be. Any BIS email (Gmail, Yahoo, etc.) can potentially be monitored when you send from your device, if the traffic routing on the BES is setup a certain way, but your BIS email comes from your carrier's connection, and is not routed through the BES when your device receives it.
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Let me get this straight so I understand...BIS email like gmail and yahoo isn't routed through the BES, only the carrier?
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Let me get this straight so I understand...BIS email like gmail and yahoo isn't routed through the BES, only the carrier?
Correct, for inbound traffic. But you're only regurgitating half of what I posted. Your email *may* be subject to monitoring when it is outbound from your device, depending on how the BES is configured. And follow that chain logically, and your received email may be captured as well, if it's quoted in your reply.
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read this, jmj1. It is up to date.

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