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Old 09-25-2008, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Guys-

I wonder if someone can help me with this:

My company doesn't allow BES for anyone under Senior Executive (which means that I can't get it). We used to be able to do BIS, but as of October, BIS access will be terminated. The "solution" we were given to this is to "buy a Windows Mobile phone."

Is there any way around this?

1) I don't want to give up my BB.
2) I don't want to buy a new phone when I just paid for a brand new Curve (and when the tech people told me a month ago that BIS was ok).

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Old 09-25-2008, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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?? Your company cannot stop you from connecting to BIS on your personal BB. That's done wirelessly with your cell provider.....
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yes BIS access is through your cell phone provider, I think your company will be getting rid of BES since they will not support your work email.
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all you would have to do is call your provider and add the BB data plan.. It cost about $35 depending on the provider.

PS IMO BB os is more stale than windows mobile :P
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Here is the email we got. But at the same time, I talked to CIO when I got the BB and they said BIS was fine and not against the policy. From what I see, there is a lot of resistance to the BIS access being cut off. Is there something else I can do? This is not a BB that the company is paying for. I bought it on my own and I am paying a data plan (along with 3000 other people on BIS at my company). Suggestions?


BlackBerry users, take note: if you are using the BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS), you are not complying with Company
security policies and access to Company e-mail will be going away soon. Starting in October 2008, CIO Technology Services will be upgrading Company’s e-mail services from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2007. As part of this upgrade, CIO Technology Services will be turning off access to BIS. If you signed up for BIS, which forwards e-mail from your Company account to a BlackBerry service, you have violated Company Policy 57: Security of Information and Acceptable Use of Systems. It is recommended that you switch to a device that will work with ActiveSync, such as a Windows Mobile service. Note: If you are currently using the Company BlackBerry Enterprise Server (BES) to sync your Blackberry device, you will not be impacted by this change. For questions and discussion regarding this change, visit the BlackBerry discussion board on the Mobility Forum.
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Your company cannot stop you from connecting to BIS on your personal BB.
They may be saying that they are "cutting off access to BIS" when what they really mean is that "OWA will not be usable by BIS and you will not be able to access your Exchange mailbox via POP or IMAP (or forwarding)" which effectively removes BIS as a viable option.
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They may be saying that they are "cutting off access to BIS" when what they really mean is that "OWA will not be usable by BIS and you will not be able to access your Exchange mailbox via POP or IMAP (or forwarding)" which effectively removes BIS as a viable option.
I agree. The company cannot stop you from having BIS in the workplace but they can make it impossible for you to access their servers from BIS. Thats what's happening here. Not uncommon at all. The large company I work for has the same policy. Ironically my company allows web based access to e-mails, but not pop/imap.....
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I agree. The company cannot stop you from having BIS in the workplace but they can make it impossible for you to access their servers from BIS. Thats what's happening here. Not uncommon at all. The large company I work for has the same policy. Ironically my company allows web based access to e-mails, but not pop/imap.....
Nothing ironic about it. They allow employees to read their emails remotely, they are just stopping you from storing them somewhare other than the company's servers.
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I wonder what is holding them back from running a strong password policy on the BB Handhelds and add users to the BES. Probably the cost of the licensing?
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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IMHO, the BB is much more secure than a WM device. I think the CIO/company has been sold a bill of goods by someone who knows not a lot about security.
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Also don't most carriers require you to have a data plan either BIS or BES. At least Verizon requires data plan to use a bb. Also why even have a bb at all if your company will not allow email on the most secure email pda platform in the world. Also don't forget that with your email setup you can now use an Iphone. The Iphone will connect to an 2007 Exchange server.
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