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Old 11-24-2008, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I come from the iphone word (is that a swear word here
I'm looking at purchasing a few blackberrys, but I'm not familiar with the whole "is the esn clear or not clear" thing. I understand that if the ESN is tied up, that I can never use this phone? Am I correct? Is there a way that if I end up getting a used phone off of ebay that IS tied up by the ESN number, can I unlock it somehow or change sim cards? I have unlocked several iphones for use on other networks, but not familiar with the blackberries too much. What I don't want to do is end up getting a dead phone. Should I absolutely NOT look at a phone that might not say ESN clear? If I DO end up getting one like that with it tied up, what can I do?

Thanks... this is my first post here, sorry if I sound really dumb with these things.
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It depends what sort of BlackBerry you are getting. If it's a GSM version, it's usually pretty easy to get the phone unlocked, so that it can be used on any GSM network. With non-GSM phones like Verizon that's usually a bigger problem. Dont know if you can unlock one of those.

I assume ESN = IMEI for non-GSM?
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I assume ESN = IMEI for non-GSM?
Correct.

Most CDMA carriers (like Verizon and Sprint) require the device to have been purchased from them (or bought used with their branding). So in those cases there is no need to unlock the device.
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Thanks for your quick reply. Can anyone else shed some light? I'm mostly looking at the blackberry curves. Are the newer ones (THE BOLD, STORM, ETC) mostly gsm?
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I guess my question then is, if I get a phone on ebay that says "verizon blackberry 8310 or 8330" can I get I just put my verizon sim card in and go? Again, sorry for sounding so dumb.
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IF it was a Verizon BlackBerry, yes. And it will still need activation on the Verizon network.

Knowing which are Verizon models will help. The 8310 is a GSM device.

Verizon devices 8130, 8330, 8830, Storm 9530 and a few older models as well.
You see that xx30 pattern?
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Ok, I think I'm getting it now. Just to be clear, what does the terminology "ESN Clear" mean?
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Most CDMA phones don't use sim cards unless they are also gsm capable, like the 8830. I've never had a sim card.
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