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ljordanm 11-26-2008 10:45 AM

Retrieving POP mail using web based mail
 
I have a Blackberry 8830, which I bought so I could access POP email while on the road without carrying around a big laptop. Previously I had been using the laptop to go to Yahoo or Excite and pick up my POP mail from my ISP's. For a couple of reasons I don't want the Blackberry pushing POP mail to my device: One reason is that I have to turn the feature on and off every time I go out of town. The other is the large amount of SPAM I receive and the time it takes to delete them on this little, limited device. The webmail sites have SPAM filtering, but I don't see that on Blackberry.

I first tried Yahoo webmail and could get the POP mail, but the mobile version of Yahoo is "dumbed down" in functionality and does not respect the POP mail preferences I set up. It therefore picks up tons of duplicate emails which are very laborious to delete (ONE AT A TIME, no "Select All"). I asked about this on this forum and someone said that Opera would view the webpage the same way as the laptop and allow me to zoom in and out. I did this and it worked fine. For awhile. However, in the last few months somebody at Yahoo did something and I no longer have an option to choose the "classic" or "mobile" version. I get only the "dumbed down" mobile version.

I have since tried to use Excite.com, which I used to use before Yahoo. On Excite I also get a mobile version and have no choice about which version I want to use. With Excite I can't even find the menu choice which picks up the POP mail.

I must be missing something. The Yahoo and Excite webmasters seem to be writing the website's HTML code so that my device has no choice, but does Opera have some way of overcoming this? If not, does anyone have any other advice as to how I can accomplish my goal? I just want to simply pick up my POP mail from the Blackberry, leaving the emails on the server, not picking up duplicates and be able to delete email in bulk using "Select All". I don't mind using Blackberry's mail system but I don't want emails pushed to the Blackberry except when I intentionally retrieve them.

Any ideas would be appreciated. I am about ready to throw out the Blackberry and go back to the old laptop.

akosnitzky 11-26-2008 10:51 AM

Wirelessly posted (Verizon 8830)

Have you tried using Opera 4.2 which had its official release this week?

mgerbasio 11-26-2008 10:55 AM

With Opera, I'm just guess here, is there a setting for emulation or something to make it look like a desktop vs a mobile. Check it there is a setting under options or something from within opera.

You may also want to check to see if Yahoo and Excite have imap rather than pop. Another option may be using Yahoo Go! for email.

Regards-Michael G.

ljordanm 11-26-2008 02:54 PM

Yes and no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akosnitzky (Post 1184463)
Wirelessly posted (Verizon 8830)

Have you tried using Opera 4.2 which had its official release this week?

Thanks for the tip about the new release. I downloaded it. There are some nice new features.

The new version did nothing to thwart Yahoo's determination that Blackberry users will only get the mobile version. I have written Yahoo to complain about it but they ignored me.

However excite.com now loads as a normal full size web page. The only problem was that when I went to excite email the browser would only load a strip of the page on the left side. There seems to be some limitation in how much code it will load at one time or something. Any idea what's wrong?

ljordanm 11-26-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mgerbasio (Post 1184468)
With Opera, I'm just guess here, is there a setting for emulation or something to make it look like a desktop vs a mobile. Check it there is a setting under options or something from within opera.

Yeah, I had the same thought and have looked all over Opera mini for some kind of setting. It appears to me that Opera mini automatically loads pages as desktop, but the person writing the HTML code has a way of overriding that. Typically they offer you a choice of "mobile" or "classic" on their front page (Google does this and Yahoo used to do this). It doesn't look to me like Opera has provided a way to override the override, but I wish someone could prove me wrong. I heard a rumor somewhere that Yahoo made this change vindictively because Opera chose Google for their search engine instead of Yahoo. If so, boy what a bunch of yahoos :razz:

scottjb 11-26-2008 03:20 PM

Probably the best thing to do is ditch Ymail. Gmail will let you view the full site from Opera Mini. You'll have access to all your folders. Ypou'll also get free POP and IMAP access.

There is no user agent string in Opera Mini that can be modified by us.

ljordanm 11-26-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottjb (Post 1184914)
Probably the best thing to do is ditch Ymail. Gmail will let you view the full site from Opera Mini. You'll have access to all your folders. Ypou'll also get free POP and IMAP access.

There is no user agent string in Opera Mini that can be modified by us.

I was afraid so.

I would love to use Gmail, as it works just fine on Opera with my Verizon POP mail account. I've had a problem with Gmail for years and it really has nothing to do with Blackberry, but maybe someone here would have an idea about that too. Here's the problem: When I set up my webmail to pick up POP mail remotely I want to leave the messages on the ISP's server, allowing me to bring them all into my desktop mail when I get home (I need to have all mail in one place when I'm tracking past communications for business reasons). Gmail tells me that my ISP does not allow them to leave messages on the server. This is not true. The ISP says they have no such restriction and other webmail sites have successfully picked up messages and left them on the server. It's apparently Gmail's problem, but they won't accept that it's theirs nor try to troubleshoot it. I have tried everything to get through to them, but it's like trying to talk to someone in Kafka's castle. If someone has any idea how to break through the barrier at Gmail and talk to someone willing to listen I'd love to hear it. I suppose I could sign up for their premium membership, but my guess is I'd spend the money and still get nowhere.

scottjb 11-26-2008 04:35 PM

Why not just go to your ISP's Web mail client and have it forward a copy to Gmail (or whatever you'll use)? Your ISP should provide the option to forward and keep a copy. Or you could just manage all your mail from Gmail. I have my ISP's mail forwarded to Gmail without keeping a copy. I just do all my email magagement in Gmail. You could probably do the same with Gmail and your local email client. There are options.

scottjb 11-26-2008 04:53 PM

You can also try this:
hxxp://www.yahoo.com/?rs=1

Replace the xx, it won't let me post a url without reformatting it.

monkeypaw 11-26-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scottjb (Post 1185070)
You can also try this:
hxxp://www.yahoo.com/?rs=1

Replace the xx, it won't let me post a url without reformatting it.

This is fantastic. I've never use Yahoo because it always brings up the extremely limited mobile site. Like the OP I was waiting for them to get their act together.


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