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Old 12-01-2008, 02:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an 8830 that suffers 4-6 MB memory leaks. I have to pull the battery first thing every morning (just as a regular time that I will remember to check it and pull) and at least 1 other time during the day, usually more often. I'm down to my last 5-6 MB of free space, so when the leak goes unremembered, my BB dumps my mail, etc.

I was at Verizon for a software issue and they ordered a replacement unit for me. The unit (probably refurbished but everything looks new) arrived today, but in the intervening days, I've corrected the software issue on my original unit. Would it be wiser to take a chance on the replacement device and hope it doesn't have the bad memory leak, or is there an excellent chance that it will have the same issues? Do I stick with the devil I know...?

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Old 12-01-2008, 03:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The memory leak you're talking about is caused by after market programs. Having any OS, even 4.2 wouldn't cause 4-5MB leaks twice a day.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks. This has been an issue since a couple months after I got the BB. The first time it happened, I had no idea why all my messages, etc., had disappeared. I know that using the Snooze button multiple times on my BB Smart Alarms app seems to drain memory...that's another reason to do it first thing in the morning But I also receive/send a lot of email, which must also collect memory and cause the need for the subsequent pulls. So it would appear that I'll have the same issues on any 8830 as long as I maintain the same apps?

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Old 12-01-2008, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't think emails will use up RAM. What is Smart Alarm?
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RAM? Email is stored in device memory (check Options->Status, open the menu and select Database Sizes). There's no "ether" for storing email.
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RAM? Email is stored in device memory (check Options->Status, open the menu and select Database Sizes). There's no "ether" for storing email.
Which is why having too many emails won't slow down the bb.
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RAM? Email is stored in device memory (check Options->Status, open the menu and select Database Sizes). There's no "ether" for storing email.
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Which is why having too many emails won't slow down the bb.
I believe what takeshi is trying to say is that email does indeed use up precious device memory. Which reduces the amount of memory available to the device for other purposes.
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Applications running slower is because of used up RAM
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Everyone know with 8830's at work complains of losing emails etc when they forget to regularly pull their batteries. The default OS install just doesn't leave much memory available.

The best solution I have found is to reload or upgrade the OS after manually removing all the uneeded other than English .cod files or whatever else they never use; help, brickbreaker,VAD, themes, default wallpapers, etc.
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Thanks for the replies. The alarm program is called BBSmart Alarms Pro. I like it better than the native alarm app because it has better features. But it seems that lot sof snoozes eat the memory. That's all I can figure, since the bulk of my email doesn't arrive overnight.

I did go through and remove unnecessary programs. I have removed extra languages, etc, following info found in a thread, but I haven't done that with my current OS upgrade. Unfortunately, I'm suddenly having a major issue with Application Loader on my laptop constantly crashing--whether run directly as loader.exe or through DM. I have another thread on this forum seeking advice on how to resolve this issue. I can't load or unload any new apps as it stands I have about 3 more days to sort this problem out before I need to send either my current BB or the replacement BB back to Verizon.
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Definitely need to check out JC's sticky on memory optimization. On my old 8830, I regularly had 22mb of free memory, even after several days of use.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ee-memory.html
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Thanks very much! I'll go through and do as many of these procedures as can be done without having to run App Loader. Once the App Loader problem gets resolved (fingers crossed), I can complete getting rid of unnecessary files.
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Everyone know with 8830's at work complains of losing emails etc when they forget to regularly pull their batteries. The default OS install just doesn't leave much memory available.

The best solution I have found is to reload or upgrade the OS after manually removing all the uneeded other than English .cod files or whatever else they never use; help, brickbreaker,VAD, themes, default wallpapers, etc.
Keep the Zen Theme because I believe theme affects several operations within the device
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Thanks for the tip. That's the one I use anyway.
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